Why Can't Whole Hog Be Shut Down Anymore?

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I don’t really understand why they changed this. Especially since they removed things like Shield Bash, Freeze, and Flash Bang.

Why can’t we stun Hog’s ult anymore?

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Because it was a garbage ult 95% of the time.

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Was it? Or did people just not know how to use it correctly?

Whole Hog shredded tanks like tissue paper.

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Yea, in 5% it was useful and not just a suicide.

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But I think that’s kinda the tradeoff. Just like alot of other ults they can be very exposing.

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It´s is now a transformation ultimate, with a timer. The same way genji and soldier ultimate works, he activates it and during a specific timer no stun or hack will remove the ultimate

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Only way to shut it down is Sleep Dart

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Pharah ult for example yeah, but her ult basically instakills 200HP characters.

Old Whole Hog pushed everyone away, dealing less and less damage and the Roadhog was a sitting duck, waiting to get killed while killing nobody.

But in some cases you could kill some enemies without dying, so most of the time you either waited years to use the ult to get value out of it or you simply used it as a zoning tool.

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Yeah, that’s true. And I should be clear, I’m not super concerned with Whole Hog. I just never saw an explanation for the change.

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Because it was changed from a channeled ult to a transformation one.

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I was looking more for the reason behind the change than the actual ult change itself. But thank you.

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oh, because the ult was really bad in ow1 already and with how ow2 encourages teams to be spread apart the ult probably would have been even weaker.

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Because he could be used as an ult charge himself bc he’s stuck in his animation.

Also Ana sleep. He’s chonky. Sleep dart can easily knock him out.

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Lol it still is pretty bad too. Half the time I use it the enemy just gets blown away to safety unless there is a wall behind them.

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i think stuns where removed but i would think sombra would be able ot stop it

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IIRC the original patch note’s dev comments were something like “Roadhog is dying too frequently during his ult. Giving him a transformation-type ult will make him a lower priority target for stuns and allow him to heal if he gets low.”

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I just hook their tank carrying around a corner to bodyblock them into the ult for a free fight win generally. You can do a little more with it though nowadays like knocking them back and then hooking them back into it again.

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Ball main here, and this is like the one ult that scares me more than any other, yes even more than EMP.
If hog solo ults you there is quite literally nothing you can do and you will die every single time, I call it the “Delete ball” button, your movement doesn’t work (especially ball’s who is more susceptible than anyone to movement changes and momentum, which makes the knockback from the individual pellets twice as strong even with the new tank passive), grappling to stop yourself just makes you take more damage and you’re the only tank without the ability to block or resist it, he’ll send you flying out of the fight, denying your only value of hitting people or solo ult you into a wall with no effort for you to explode haha

At least before your supports could bail you out but now…

Not to mention now he can even hook you right into it a second time (which is not hard because ball is a free hook anyway) if by some miracle you manage to bounce away in the right way

(I’m not asking for it to be nerfed just sharing my experience lol)

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It was a terrible ult to begin with, turning it into a transformation ult made it functional at least.

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So is high noon but still can be cancelled