Does anyone know the reason?
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Because if we did, there would be massive leavers at setup when they see 5 solo queuers vs 4 stacks.
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It was one of their many changes to improve Q times back when games were taking 20+ minutes to get into. Suddenly match making dropped to 5 minutes or less. I highly doubt millions of new players joined up.
Instead they removed the ability to view groups, and then also removed the limitation of not putting 5 stacks up against randoms. Much like any other restrictions have been heavily reduced.
You get faster matches, but they are nearly all crap because there is no real restrictions on who you get a match with.
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Same reason everything else that was once visible is now hidden
To hide the terrible matchmaking
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Basically this.
Back in the wee old days of early Overwatch we used to have this, they were visually linked together in the old scoreboard.
Then people immediately got fed up because solo queues are getting matched more often than not against 5 or 6 stacks.
As in literally a bunch of randoms VS a premade.
Suffice to say matches are already decided before the timer finishes counting down.
EDIT: found an old pic
https://imgur.com/v2DvSO9
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less transparency seems to blizzards plan atm.
Yup exactly. And from your pic, now take away the leftmost 2 players on each side (since just 1 tank now). It becomes a 5 stack against 5 solo queuers which is arguably worse than the pic you shared.
I think this is why we wonât see group markers anymore, even if this wasnât the intent. It would expose matchmaking and the fury would be even worse.
You can actually, just âinvite to a groupâ when you in a game and if it says âplayer already in a groupâ then they are in a group if it says âcanât invite because player is playing compâ then they are playing solo
They do this, because they know Solo Q players do NOT want to play against stackers. and instead of doing the RIGHT thing. They refuse to do so, at Blizzard.
instead of giving us solo queue they try to hide groups⊠its just blizzard being blizzard
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no valid reason to be honest
I just stated the reason.
Same reason why speech can get you perma banned and you cant swear because liberalism.
okay. i was replying to.
could be their reason but not valid. why? because groups mean nothing. imagine group reveals at end of match. groups lose just as often as non groups usually.
The original reason for role queue was because the players were grouped by role instead of by group, so it was harder from a UI perspective to show both relationships at the same time.
They probably learned from role queue that knowing this wasnât important, so they likely removed it from OQ as part of their efforts to improve toxicity in the game. I can say with certainty that it has done that job quite well.
People complain because they have to fight against premade 2 from 5
Now you canât see grp stack, problem resolved by blizzard! no more complain
Not like just a 2 stack like mercy + dps can carry game easy!
Obviously create a grp queue ladder seems to hard
No we have 0 wait times, youâre diamond you get gold in your team! maybe enemy get a premade no one know!
This. QFT. Shame on Blizzard for needing to hide stacks so we donât rage.
Because Blizzard seems to think ignorance will make a less toxic game.
That way they get to gaslight us about things like matchmaking.
Because you can tell who is grouped up without it
Majority have the same name or number and they always follow each other 