Well first off, she has basically a Winston Bubble strapped to her arm 24/7, remember this is a SUPPORT! She also has burst healing, on a short cooldown that requires no aim. It does 150 BURST HEALING with the possibility of 75 over-heal, in armor. She has this amazing bailout, on a SIX second cooldown, and it locks-on to the target. She also basically has Lúcio’s speed aura. All she needs to do is slap someone with her primary fire. Not an ability, primary fire. She also has a stun that lasts longer than flashbang and is on a shorter cooldown. It also takes way less risk to use shield bash than flashbang as McCree has a measly 200 hitpoints, while Brig has 750 (more than any character, except Rein BTW). She also has a boop that was just made way more consistent last patch. She also has a support ultimate that basically acts as a great engage tool, and it charges every fight. Half of this utility would make a useful, maybe slightly overpowered character, but Brigitte has all of this making her utterly broken.
She isn’t overpowered right now.
Why, are you going to make any case against all the arguments I laid out that suggest the exact opposite?
Well her ults the worst support ultimate right now, her barrier is extremely easily destroyed especially considering the amount of dmg in this game, bash is OK, though it does barely any dmg and mainly used for mobility, whip is avg, it’s literally 1 mcree bullet with limited range, a projectile and exposes her to open fire for like a second. Repair pack is good though. Inspire has a measly 16hps, considering the amount of damage in this game… that’s nothing. and her primary is super overrated with a measly 58 dps… at melee range… now compare that to an actual dps for example soldier who does 180dps without headshots.
Brigs fine.
I didn’t know that you could refresh Brig’s Shield on cooldown and that it would snap back to full HP.
DPS one trick who plays both flankers extensively complaining about how OP brig is.
yawn
Moving on.
Who do you main first off? Second, are you still dying to her or what? If so, does it tilt you to die to HER particularly or just any support in general?
I disagree.
They may need to look at Brig’s Barrier health but I wouldn’t nerf it hard without giving her something to compensate ( lower cooldown on SB/or more heals on inspire). This is coming from an avid Brig supporter like me.
Mcree’s stun lasts .75 sec and Brig’s is 1 sec right? I don’t think it makes that big of a difference since she relies on other players to really capitalize on you.
I’d also argue that Mcree’s Flashbang isn’t all that risky, it’s a grenade. It’s only risk is Genji and Tracer, and those two mainly because of their hyper mobility. Still it’s a very easy to use CC and it isn’t even remotely that much harder than Brig’s SB. Brig is a melee hero, and Jeff himself already commented on how difficult they were to make in the game.
Her ult is lucio speed aura. Her friggin’ ult man. Meanwhile Rein and Zarya get free teamfight winning ultimates, and Genji and Reaper get Q to win buttons so miss me with the Rally salt. It’s been nerfed in effectiveness.
I know your mad, but the cold hard truth is Brig is the way she is because of Genji/Tracer having entirely too much strength in the game.
Charges just as fast us everyone else’s, if not faster. Also its a great engage ultimate.
Assuming its the SIZE of Winston bubble, no just the health. Its size makes it hard to focus and its health makes it hard to kill.
Bash is better than flashbang, shorter cooldown and longer stun. It might be one of the best focus tools in the game. Especially with discord.
That’s the Lúcio passive aura, look it up. I don’t see people complaining about Lúcio’s aura needing a buff.
Lol Soldier sucks. Might be the worst hero in the game. He’s useless in every comp. Why pick an everyman when you could have two specialists? That’s how the human race evolved, people specialized and had time for stuff besides making food.
You seem to be vastly overrating the state of damage in this game, considering we’re ina tank meta and have been for the past year. Don’t believe me look up the interview Your Overwatch did with Samito, the Tournament of Future Champions Winner.
You’re straw-manning my argument and you know it. She has a shield without cooldown that can be used whenever that has almost the health of Winston Bubble with a fraction of the size. We should know from D.Va that having somthing available more often (DM and Brig’s shield) is better than on cooldown.
If Blizzard showed stats for past comp seasons you would see that I play Junkrat, Pharah, and Hanzo a lot in comp. The exact people who’re supposed to counter Brigitte.
Mostly Moira and Brigitte, the poeple that take no skill. Unless its comp, then it doesn’t matter as long as we win the fight.
No you literally said she has a Winston barrier on her wrist. If you can’t tell the difference between a 500 HP personal shield and a 600 HP DISRUPTION shield, then you have absolutely no room to talk about balance- especially if you think that Brig is still busted outside of pro play.
Also I hate Brig btw, it was just a poor arguement by you.
All due respect, if your playing Pharah how are you dying to either of those two? Junkrat and Hanzo I can understand if your being all aggro though.
I’m guessing as Pharah they dropped a bit too low and got snagged by either Moira’s primary, or a well timed whipshot, possibly mid ult when they weren’t paying too much attention.
No, not really. I can have a team of randoms roll with GOATS in low Diamond, not exactly pro-play. The difference between a disruption shield and personal barrier is significant, but it ignores the point I was making. The one about how her barrier has WAY too much health.
You’d be surprised how long Moira’s range is on her beam. On maps like Paris its impossible to avoid it. I also never said I died on those specific heroes, I just said that to preemptively counter the argument that Brig is hard-core countered by ranged damage. Its hard to kill her if she cycles her abilities with any other tanks.
Except it barely protects from one angle and is extremely easy to get around, and has 100 less HP than Winston’s bubble that can cover his entire team.
Better remove Soldier’s heal then, since he’s a DPS.
A healer that can heal, oh no!
Neither does just about any other healing source in the game, as well as a multitude of damage sources.
You can only get 75 overheal if you get 75 or less healing.
She literally doesn’t, what?
A stun that can’t go through shields and has the shortest range of any stun in the game, which also has much weaker followup than every other stun in the game.
Unless McCree stuns you around a corner, which Brigitte can’t do.
Except she doesn’t, because you don’t need to break her shield to kill her. Not that breaking a slow, big target is hard in the first place.
If Brig’s tiny shield counts as her health, why does Rein’s much larger shield not count as him having 2500 health?
A boop that’s harder to hit and has a longer cooldown than Lucio’s.
A support ultimate which cannot counter damage ultimates, necessitating she be run with another off-healer with an actual defensive ult.
Brigitte is trash outside of GOATs, which is really a non-issue below high masters. If you still can’t deal with Brig, the problem is you.
Brigitte =/= goats though.
I know people like to exaggerate by adding her shield health to her HP pool to try to make some point but it doesn’t work like that in reality and I wish people would stop doing it if they want to have a productive and constructive discussion on character balance.
She isn’t.
The best thing about her kit is her personal survivability and her repair pack, while bash is just annoying.
That doesn’t make her OP. Especially considering she has many counters, if used in a 2-2-2 setting her team is most likely suffering due to either a lack of healing or a lack of a defensive ultimate, has limited range, have I mentioned she has plenty of counters?
You can play even someone like JR against her and she’s going to struggle because he can take out her shield and then her extremely easily, she’ll need her team to back her up if you play Pharah as she can’t even hope to reach her, snipers cant wait until she puts her shield down for a brief second to kill her, Reinhardt shatters her dreams with his giant hammer, and the list goes on.
If you’re struggling against her it’s either in a GOATS setting, or you’re not playing smart and a Brig is abusing that weakness.
I mean that sounds like a skill shot if you ask me. They should give them credit no? As for Moira, well if it’s during Pharahs ult she’s like vulnerable to anything anyway.
Exactly, it’s more a Pharah issue than a Brig and Moira being too easy issue.
Have you tried playing her outside of >2 healer comp?