I’ve been noticing for a long time that if there is Lucio or Ashe on a team, that team always loses if the other team doesn’t have those characters. What is the point of Lucio and Ashe, what do they even do?
You can win with Lucio in team if there is a huge difference in the skill level of the DPS and the Tank.
ashe does have to be pocketed or babysitted than most heroes. i do well with ashe but sometimes if im hardcore dived on i suffer pretty much. one of the reasons i like sombra better since lone wolf and independant even tho not as strong as ashe
ashe is stronger with mery i guess and lucio doesnt even interact with ashe much
Ash simply takes one support into the pocket, and as a result, if the person on Ash is not constantly killing, then the team with one support perishes. And players on Ash who constantly kill are just a rarity.
I don’t know what to tell you other than “your mileage may vary”, because I don’t remember ever thinking, “Argh! We have an Ashe/Lucio! We’re screwed!”
I feel like Ashe is always in A tier at the worst; Ashe might not technically be the best but she’s always been able to carry her weight in my games for… her entire existence, I think?
The only time Lucio’s bad is when QP Lucio is rocking 99 deaths in as many seconds. If he doesn’t constantly dive headfirst into a woodchipper then he also pulls his weight with speed, boop, damage, and ult.
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Ashe is pretty good, and lucio is unironically one of the best supports. Pretty much lucio with like bap, Ana, or kiri. Problem is at low/average ranks; many Lucio players think they are frogger and play stupid and throw.
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It’s unfortunate because Lucio is now public enemy number one amongst metal teammates. I love having one on my team as long as they’re not daft and, for the most part, they’re not. But they all get tarred by the same brush and jerks shout at them to swap. Sucks!
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Ashe and Lucio are among the strongest heroes in their respective roles, so idk what you’re on lmfao
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The amount of lucio players who take 15% boop distance, especially on maps without environmental kills is too damn high. Especially when the other minor perk is amazing. 6s of amp it up during ult, and can amp soon as it ends for 9s straight.
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I’ll tell ye what Ashe is good for
She’s very good at ensuring that the enemy Freja can have no fun 
The boop distance one is actually the rarer perk now (well, it has been for some time). Outside of the environmental maps, it can be useful depending on the team comp as well.
But they are removing it Tuesday, so the new comp ought to be more competitive a choice (and rewarding for better Lucio players).
Oh I know it’s going away, but so many average lucio players take that perk. Come Tuesday there will be much more of a real choice. Ult one is great, but new boop one with the added dmg changing breakpoints can be a reasonable option. And lucky for Lucio, he gets to keep his great minor and major 