I’ve wondered this since the feature dropped in 2016. The only thing it accomplishes is letting people fill the chat up faster like they’re using binds. Everyone knows what it means, save for the one time a new player responds to it and then gets laughed at.
So please, try and explain to me why replacing “ggez” with long condescending messages each time it’s typed is a good thing. I’ll wait.
I mean, yeah, they’re funny the first 10 times or so. Not so much after you see it hundreds of times.
And making the messages into the same 5 different things doesn’t stop anyone from getting triggered, unless you SPECIFICALLY respond to the letters on your screen, which isn’t the point of saying “ggez” at all
Since it’s been added, I’ve see ggez used way less in Overwatch. Idk if it’s actually been reduced overall, but in my experience people don’t say ggez as much because the filter makes it less satisfying to use.
I’d say your mentality is far separated from the norm as far as I can tell.
If someone’s going to call their opponents “ez”, they’re not trying to be a good sport or keep a low profile. They perfectly fine with being toxic. When one person alone can instantly fill a chat with their allotted 4 messages before the spam filter hits them, being obnoxious and hurtful becomes much easier.
I would wager that the people who stopped using it because of this are either matched or far outweighed by people who use it more because of the filter.
But those lines are contradicting the purpose of spamming in the first place. Spamming those lines are not all at as hurtful as “ggez”. It’s either equal to if you choose to read the message as such or it’s less hurtful because the filter is making fun of the obnoxious spammer.
Either way, before the filter I remember seeing “ggez” as often as 1 in 5 games. Now? It must be months since the last time I’ve seen someone type exactly “ggez” or any form of ez.
I always thought it was “ez pz” didn’t know it was “gg ez” also. HAHA.
Great topic, I always found it hilarious, tbh. I thought it was like a meme from the developers to make people rub in others’ defeats. I guess this makes me a bad person, but I like to say “ez pz” when enemy team gets stomped because “I’m trying really hard to be a nicer person. I really am.” just makes me giggle out loud.
I can’t even begin to wrap my head around your logic here…
The “nice”/“childish” lines that get put in chat don’t suddenly make the fact that someone typed “ggez” go away. Like-- you’re saying, because “ggez” doesn’t show up in the chat, all the meaning behind what they were saying goes away, and that’s really not how communicating works.
If you’re implying that the easy-to-sidestep filter discourages people from saying ‘ggez’ because they know the community and Blizzard look down upon them, like… No. Hardly anyone is stupid enough to act like this clearly edited quote by them in chat is something they said, and “being a dick is bad” is so blatantly obvious already that filtering this one phrase shouldn’t even matter as far as conveying that is concerned. Furthermore, Blizzard allows players to be so much more toxic in the game than just that without getting banned that there’s really no hard punishment to back-up this post-it note “kick me” sign of a mark on their account.
Filtering the words you put in chat doesn’t change what someone’s message mean when you do it like this. Blizz allowing people to type this out and more makes any discouragement caused by it irreverent. If you’re looking specifically at the alphabet characters next to someone’s username in chat to determine what they’re meaning to say, knowing full well that this is in the game, you have problems to work on.
The meaning and intent is still there, it’s just that the action and the result is changed to mock the purpose performing the action. If you choose to see it as a way of Blizzard making fun of people who say “ggez”, then the meaning is less impactful for the players that interpret it this way. If the filter doesn’t change the meaning behind the message, then all it does is fill the chat up faster. More spam doesn’t mean something is more hurtful.
I’m not sure why you’re getting so heated over this. You don’t speak for anyone but yourself and I’m only speaking for my experience and the experiences of my friends and teammates that agree with my logic. And my logic is that it either doesn’t make the message anymore impactful, or it makes it less impactful because it filters the message with a funny joke for the recipient to laugh at.
I’m not saying my experience is representative of the entire community or that you’re wrong, I’m just saying that the filter does seem to have done something positive because before the filter I saw a lot more “ggez” in chat; a few months after the filter, everyone got bored with it and I see it way less than I did before the filter.
Maybe an option to hide ggez messages should be added, people can have filtered or unfiltered chat, why not remove the messages altogether for folks who don’t want to see it?
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@Fatfatty#11970:
In the same way you propose that I imagine Blizzard making fun of players with me indirectly, I imagine, as others have in this very thread, that they don’t care and that I’m still dealing with toxic players. As for filling up the chat faster not being more hurtful, it just seems like you either don’t know what you’re talking about here, or you’re just really interested in shutting me down. The ability, in any way to control more of another person’s experience is integral to frustrating others. You might recognize this as “trolling”. People do it in simple ways. People do it in complex ways. You can do it with speech, you can do it physically, you can do it digitally, and so on. When 1-6 people can, beyond a reasonable doubt of their sincerity, make my chat unreadable through an enhanced version of their toxic statement, it affects me more. When people are trying to make me upset, or I already am, this is undoubtedly more effective than just the message. I’m not even asking Blizzard to silence these people (though their punishment toward players who would normally get communications penalties IS highly questionable), I’m just wondering why they were kept more effective after it’s clear their original “laugh at the toxic player” idea fell through. This is in the same game where I’ve been told to “get new friends” on a loss when matchmaking refuses to give me and my new-to-the-game friends playable matches. I’m not going to just imagine that Blizzard laughing at them with me is supposed to make it alright, and I don’t appreciate that me getting upset at toxic players is something I’m not allowed to do or complain about.
Along that same line, I really don’t appreciate that you’re defaulting to saying I’m too heated on the subject simply because I want to draw attention to it. It’s clear that at least some people, even just in this thread, agree with what I was trying to say.
If you really have seen less people saying “ggez”, then I’m happy for you, but I certainly haven’t. I haven’t at all.
See, you’re talking about what I imagine this gets used for more. I can totally see why using this to be annoying is more useful and, honestly, enjoyable sometimes. And while I acknowledge that you are given a tool that changing this would take away, I don’t see why being obnoxious should be encouraged like this at all.
Again, I can see why this helps, but just imagining away hurtful people doesn’t make me feel any better. Surprisingly enough, I’m not always clear-of-mind enough to put up with extra stress during what should be my relaxation activity.
I did as well when I first saw it. It’s not explained anywhere and is even scarcely addressed directly. Hardly anyone would think to search up the exact message from chat (which you can’t copy) either. It just seems like a beginners trap, since I HAVE seen people respond to it and get made fun of just for not being “in on the joke” so to speak…
Very much this. Chat already has options like Profanity Filter that can be toggled. Even if this message edit happens server-side, they could just… Make it not do that.
Or even better, just give them a list of ten empty text spaces and let them type in messages that are or contain whatever you enter, and you could just hide the type of messages you don’t ever want to see.