I actually am curious for everyone saying they are bad. The only one I see that wasn’t needed was the change to Ram.
I think the sombra nerfs were well needed. But what is making people say the patch is awful?
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They nerfed sombra into the ground, which was one of the only DPS in the game that could consistently pressure Widow. That combined with the Widow mythic this season means there are Widows on both teams in every game. People are quickly discovering that Widow is actually a completely broken hero and is 300x MORE annoying to fight against than perma-stealth Sombra was. If blizzard doesnt hotfix Widow and dumpster her (where she belongs), expect half of the playerbase to be gone by the midseason patch.
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because the balance and design team suck
like there is no real mystery, they just suck at their job
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The nerfed Ram, a fairly mid tank, into the ground for no reason other than to appease shield botters who don’t want to fight back, thereby taking away his main purpose. They re-worked Sombra again into something weird. They super buffed Sojourn. who was in a somewhat decent but not super strong spot, so her insufferable meta will be back. They buffed Mauga who was already oppressive, and didn’t touch Orisa despite being oppressive and unkillable. Both Mauga and Orisa are low effort and highly effective tanks that are picked a lot when things go sideways.
These are my complaints. They buffed what didn’t need it and nerfed Ram hard for no reason, while the Sombra re-rework remains to be seen but doesn’t leave much confidence.
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Sombra got rework too often. Poor Sombra mains have to learn her from almost scratch every time.
IMO The dev needs to get someone to actually play Sombra rather than making decisions solely base on dead data only. Lots of GaS dev fail because they ONLY refer to numbers without understanding what actually is going on.
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Sombra “rework” didn’t make her any less annoying to play against and it’s her 3rd rework in a row without any changes to hack (the obvious issue with her kit).
Also, power creeping baptiste again for no reason. Why did he need a recoil reduction when he’s already been given the nickname “Support 76.”
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yeah i dont get it either. I mean I do, because his burst is somewhat annoying to counter recoil, but I also dont get it because it already is very accurate and can do a lot of damage if you can aim.
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I think sombra was much more annoying than widow is. Not a lot of good widows out there as it takes time to be able to hit headshots
It’s less about the heroes who were nerfed, and more what that means for the heroes that weren’t even changed.
I’m literally just playing Junkenstein’s lab atm, which in all fairness I thought was going to be horrible but is actually quite fun. But once that’s over, I’ll be waiting for at least the mid-season patch before I can even be bothered with QP let alone comp. I’ve no interest in widowfest.
Bap is strong but got a buff anyway.
Monkey and Horsey are meta, and went untouched, but Ram got his identity taken away. Cuz reasons.
They can’t balance Sombra correctly. Again. Again again. Whats the over/under on how many more times they’ll rework her? I’d say 3. Maybe 4 more times.
The devs are putting more effort into recoloring skins for atrocious prices than balancing their game well.
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Does anybody even play this game?
I see this argument all the time.
A lot of heroes counter Widow.
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ha funny joke you got there
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHA
You cant be serious. Legitimately. You cannot be serious saying it’s in any way difficult to aim with a hitscan weapon in this game.
Do me a favor and name all of the DPS or SUPPORT heroes that supposedly “counter” widow.
When a hero becomes clunky, it’s a bad patch.
You have to play Sombra with your team now and that’s fine but she received no compensation buffs to help promote the new play style
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Genji, phara, venture, tracer, hanzo, echo,
Js a couple, there’s also a lot of value in just distracting widow too
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Yes, she did.
Hack can be used in stealth again, opens up the target for more damage, and so on.
Sure.
D.Va, Doomfist, Genji, Hanzo, JQ, Lucio, Mauga, Moira, Reaper, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Sigma, Sojourn, Tracer, Venture, another Widow, Wrecking Ball.
Countering doesn’t just mean mobility and being sneaky, it can also be mitigating her oneshots, which most tanks do.
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To hit constant headshots, uhhh yeah I am. Most of the heroes in this game are either mid tier to easy tier to learn. Widow is mid. She isn’t hard hard to learn, but she is top 5-10 compared to other heroes
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Um… Phara is literally a free kill for widow. Tracer is very map dependant (what her flanking routes are to reach where widow is in less than half an hour. Or at all with some grapple ledges she can’t get to) Venture is a front line brawler, if she tries flanking then its a 4v5 for far too long. Realistically now, Genji or hanzo (or mirror widow if they’re better) are the choices. Or Doom/Ball if the rest of the team can survive without a tank for long enough. But none of them are great, all rely on someone on your team having the necessary skill with those heroes and meanwhile half the roster (certainly everyone I enjoy playing) become just horrible as you try and hide the whole game while still doing something useful.
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There were a lot of counters to sonbra too and look what happened