the original OW maps were much better
anubis
hanamura
space station
now we have junk like these 5 CP maps where you put a CP right next to enemy spawn point
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Isnât that a âloser compensationâ thing? If youâre losing, youâre still near the point so you can try to take it.
I mean, its possible you just get spawn camped, but if you arenât swapping to deal with that, then thereâs not much I can tell you.
why even have it then? its just a waste of time
its not worth even trying to take that point w/ ults etc
stupid match mode
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They all suck. Youâre comparing the 2 worst ow game modes. Some of the maps were pretty, but gameplay in all of them is miserable.
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I do hate the new clash game mode. There is zero room for error, and the compensation mechanics are lacking. It might go better in organized groups, but just randomly pubbing is a nightmare on these maps, because you always have one or two idiots who try to push the point thatâs already 95% captured, then they just get mowed down and now spawn FURTHER back, leaving you as 3 or 4 against a full swarm of 5 coming onto the next point. Guess what usually happens there.
From that point itâs just a pointless rubber band, because theyâre already up a cap, so you just go back and forth, enemy caps B, you cap A, enemy caps B, ad nauseum until the enemy team wins. OCCASIONALLY youâll have one or two players on the enemy team make the same mistake your teammates made and flip it, but really thatâs the only hope youâve got, even if the teams are otherwise relatively evenly matched.
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Theyd complain wherever you put the spawn pointâŚ
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Anubis, Hanamura, and Horizon? This is a troll post
Volskaya was the only half decent 2cp map. But it was still 2cp
the same bad things 2cp had that players hated and why was removed from the game are still present on clash, but they aded a worst new problem, losing team gets a free comeback and the match keeps going and going when the team that captured two points in a row deserved to win long ago
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space station???!! i hope your arenât talking about lunar colony, i would rather drag my 
through a mile of broken glass than ever play that map again
Iâm pretty sure where the next point opens up is RNG unless they have changed it recently.
It definitely shouldnât be âloser compensationâ. Thatâs just anti-competitive.
Imagine if the football team that is losing gets their endzone moved closer to help them just because they are outmatched.
Honestly, I think itâs a mix of two things.
Most of the old map designers from OW1 are gone. Aaron Keller designed some maps, but I donât know how much he works on new maps as the game director now. Surely he oversees it and probably has some input, but I would assume that he isnât sitting there designing the concepts or general structure of maps.
The other issue is not only did they start designing maps with a different general goal in mind (making them a lot bigger), but they also started designing entirely new map types like Push, Flash and Clash and each of these map types of some pretty glaring flaws (Clash just being fundamentally flawed at the core).
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Clash is a good game mode, but the maps are terrible. Its corridory
Kind of agree in terms of clash, but how much of that is map vs. Mode for me i am not sure. I dont hate it, but i dont like it. I dont understand the hate for any of the other new maps or modes. I actually really like push and 5cp⌠all maps. The only 2 maps added for ow2 that i genuinely get my hate on for are circuit and midtown. Those get me sarcastically saying ânice, best map in the gameâ, out loud by reflex not even realizing i did it.
Honestly I dislike all OW2 maps.
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Itâs all pointless because my favorite map, Paris, is goneâŚ
This is literally not a joke. I had a 89% win rate on Paris because I liked the map and mastered it. Yâall just sucked at it.
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Do you remember that all three of the maps you mentioned have a capture point right next to a spawn room?
I think the maps are good. This is the only game where I like all the maps. I want my 2CP ones back, too.
There has been major pushback on every new map going back to the first new ones. People hated Havana because âWhy would you give Widow these sightlines??â and so forth, but itâs old enough now that many people donât know itâs not original, or theyâd feel obligated to hate it.
This was better.
The other 2 were horrible. And the throne of Anubis we have right now is just as horrible⌠Imo XD
in no other map do you get an advantage for being down on points
to take that last point requires the attacking team to use extra ults, and even if they do its hard to take since their spawn point is right next to it
why should people get some sort of handicap for losing? what a trash mode
most people just let the defending team get the point next to their spawn because it is such a waste to try and take it⌠so you sit there and waste a minute letting them cap that point⌠itâs just a waste of everyones time and a trash game mode
did blizzard intend for teams to just sit around and let them cap the point near their base? such a fun use of a minute, standing around because blizzards crap game mode design
thats true, but neither team has an advantage on those maps
in clash, you will have an advantage for being down on points
Is mostly a game mode thing imo.
The new payload and koth maps imo are good and fun. Shambali, island and ice map.
Runascapi is the only push map I somewhat enjoy, but donât really ever look forward to.
I do like Flashpoint though. Which is a minority opinion.
Nothing comes close to the originals though. Kings row, lijiang,ilios etc⌠but also i prefer even the crud push maps to that terrible numbani 
They should just remake kings row a couple times mirrored with new skins/textures hah.