Why a tracer nerf won't work

Many people feel tracer is op. The main reason I see, is that tracer has very few counters and the counters she does have can be overcome if the tracer is very skilled. Tracer can’t be nerfed directly because her kit is too find tuned around her 150hp. The main way the devs try to nerf her is by buffing her counters. Here is why that doesn’t work:

It happens that tracer’s counters are the most annoying/least skillful heroes in the game. Junkrat can be played with a blindfold and still manage a load of dps for your team. His traps are difficult to spot and his mines are cancer. One hit ko heroes like hanzo make the game incredibly annoying as any one-hit KO hero relies on luck more often than skill. The devs are trying to please anti-tracer players with the addition of Brigitte who can just swing her mace in a teammfight and is a guaranteed hit on tracer. Some people have issues with Moira as tracer and she is another no-skill hero as she requires no aim and has easy escape. The only heroes that can be very effective tracer counters and still require skill are heroes that for some reason, no one wants to see buffed. Those are McCree, Hog and Sombra.

Sombra’s hack was potentially the biggest tracer killer we had. During the time she was getting played more, playing tracer was a nightmare and I was forced to switch many times I came across a good sombra. But, people complained about her hack and now she has been nerfed back into irrelevance so, goodbye to that nerf

Roadhog always gave tracer some problems. Even when hog was “op” a good tracer could work around him, but it was still risky. The idea of a hog buff would give many people here nightmares, but you can’t deny that because of his large health pool and hook combo, a good hog can keep a tracer from reeking havoc in your back line. But again hog is off limits.

Finally we have McCree. In my opinion, the most skilled hero who is also the most forgotten. This guy gets no loves even though he has the potential to be another tracer killer. Again a good tracer can work around him but, if played right, a good McCree can demolish a tracer. I honestly can’t tell you why no one cares about McCree or why he isn’t played more. It’s a mystery to me.

So there you have it. Tracer can’t get nerfed because her main skillful counters would raise the ire of the community if they are buffed so the devs won’t touch them. The unskilled counters have been buffed before and made the game terrible and annoying. So unless the community is willing to change it’s mind on hog, sombra and mccree tracer will continue to destroy your back line. Have fun :slight_smile:

Nerf won’t work because she would be next to useless if anything changes , her kit is fine , people get salty over less .

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Exactly, how about pay attention to the tracer, make sure your back line is closer to the group and you have a mcree watching the back line.

Then it’s np.

Ever played against a top tier level tracer? Then you know why people say that she is op.

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And what percent of the player population will a top tier tracer be? 5 percent? 2 percent? less that 1 percent? I don’t think the other 90+ percent of players should suffer because 1% of players don’t like 1 hero.

In OWL, it’s almost always Tracer and a wild card DPS slot (i.e. Widow, Solider, Genji). If the devs hadn’t nerfed Sombra she could’ve replaced the “Tracer slot” under some circumstances thus adding a bit more variety, but instead running Sombra AND Tracer is now meta

You mean she will be on par with sombra? The two are meant to have similar play styles and be just as viable as each other.

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Sombra was never a dps. She was always used as an off-support. Even after her buff her dps was still less that the other offensive heroes. She has always been about building up her emp and having the team follow up on it while playing around her hacked health pack. If you can get a pick her and there, great.

No. She was and is nothing like tracer. No even close. As, tracer, you can completely ignore using your pulse bomb and still have a very great game. If you don’t using your emp as sombra you are basically throwing.

There is nothing similar about tracer and sombra. Where are you getting this?

That’s the problem. My comment said:

Edit: for some reason my comment ended up quoting from you, but that’s fine.

They both:

  • Go into the enemy backlines.
  • Cause trouble for the supports.
  • Perhaps kill the supports in the process.
  • Get out.

Tracer has a higher damage output as sombra as well as having an ult that doesn’t rely on her team to get full advantage of.

Sombra relies heavily on her team, which is why she’s only viable at higher ranks.

Tracer is a solo carry and is very self-reliant. Sombra can no longer gain ult charge from her healthpacks so now she is even MORE reliant on her team than before.

Trying to compare sombra and tracer is like trying to compare D.Va and winston. They are both meant to dive on particular targets so hey, they’re very similar. It turns out that they are very different. If you try to play one like the other you will get destroyed because the goals may be similar but the difference in health and dps makes them very different.

I’ve always found sombra more comparable to a Zarya because of the impact of their ults and how similar they are. With both, you are kind of poking at the enemy until you get enough for the big ult. You have to position yourself well for it and you MUST communicate to get the most follow up. Like Zarya, sombra’s ult on its own is useless, it needs to be combo’d with something, like tac-visor, death blossom, etc. But when used right, I think these two ults are without a doubt the most devastating.

Sombra is all about her ult. It is everything about her. Tracer’s ult is an after thought.

Both are meant for dive, both are equally viable.

So you think sombra is more like zarya than tracer? lol okay

Clearly the game should be balanced around platinums who walk into walls and can’t aim to save their life.
While we are at it, let’s nerf Symmetra and bastion and buff Ana past her old season 3 state because she’s too hard to aim with.

Have you ever played OW. Forget even ladder games. Look at OWL. Tracer easily kills supports.

Tracer has too much utility at the moment.

She has effectively 299 health
With blinks she can target low health enemy heroes better than anyone.
She can flank easier than any hero which allows her to split the team to got to the point.
She has an ult that can target specific hero which is extremely hard to avoid, so whether you get stuck or not with the pulse is up her own mistake(Some heroes can survive).
She can get back to her team after death faster any most heroes.
She can stall points
She has dps to kill lsquishies
She has no hard counter and mccree can be easily avoided.
She can overextend make a mistake then recall back to safety with no punish.
Small hit box makes her hard to hit.
Blinks allow her so much utility such as getting to health pack quickly then back in the fight.

We will see how Brigitte handles tracer but my guess is Tracer will just play around her like Mccree. Even autotracking heroes mean nothing to her such as moira, sym and winston.

I am not sure if nerfing her as a hero or buffing her soft counters is the right thing to do. The problem with buffing her counters is that it throws the whole game’s balance off which makes it harder.

They need to change recall to not recover HP, so Tracer’s play need to be more precise

Bro what does that even mean “be more precise”? LMFAO you sound like you have no idea what ur talking about. :rofl:

Seriously she is too good this meta.

I was confused for a moment. Then I saw april 2018.

Only the kind of person who necros a year old thread could come out with such an insightful and well thought out change. Well done! I’m sure your paycheck from Blizz will come through the post soon, as I’m sure you’re sure to be a fine addition to the OW balance team!

This topic needs to be deleted because its over a year old and the information in it is outdated and not relevant!

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