Why 2-2-2 will kill low/mid rank matches

If Blizzard did not care about false reporting, they would not have rules for reporting

but they do

If Blizzard did not care about false reporting, they would not have actioned players for doing so

but they have

No, not really, since poor play is not a reportable offense

Yes, because whatever you say here won’t stop them from being reported. So, maybe yes, or maybe no. It depends on the moira.

I would get used to it. He has falsely accused me of “personal attacks” on a few occasions now after I criticized his arguments and his behavior. It just seems to be “the refrain,” if you take my meaning (it used to be “I respectfully disagree” to like… everything).

You have made specious comparisons between reporting rules for hero choice/playing poorly, and abusing a role queue/lock system to circumvent a queue and knowingly sabotage your team by playing a support/tank hero suboptimally.

I assume you’re intelligent enough that you are aware that these things are not comparable, and that hero choice is not the topic immediately on hand. You’re welcome to correct me if I’m wrong; however, operating under that assumptions, your insistence on making this comparison is indeed disingenuous.

However, hero choice is not directly relevant to the behavior being discussed, which leads me back to my criticism that your remarks are specious and not genuine because I assume that you’re smart enough to know that it’s not the immediately relevant topic. Again, feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I have already explained why.

The topic on hand is how abusing a role queue/lock system in the manner described on this thread is actionable under rules regarding gameplay sabotage.

They seriously do not care though. They actioned like one streamer they already disliked and there are hundreds of people claiming to be falsely reported.

I wont be replying again to this personal attack focused side discussion in this thread

Falsely reported, yes

Given the repeated personal attacks on me here and elsewhere, i will not be responding again to this side discussion.

Role choice is never throwing

  1. How does Blizzard know it is a false report unless the person says in game “I’m reporting you just because”?
  2. How does a person know their teammate is trying outside of the person saying “I’m trying”?
  3. If false reports were so bad, why has no one been banned for false reports?

Well at least I can leave knowing this person proved us right. Destroy their arguments = personal attacks now. Not one time did you even come close to addressing anything point made against you, instead went after arguments you think you could win. Troll rating: 0/10 and discussion rating 0/10. Work on those and then maybe we can have an “adult” conversation later on.

Pffft if anything 2-2-2 will have the most positive effects on low/mid rank matches since compositions can be anything at that level of gameplay and GOATS outside bronze GOATS isn’t really viable there so the optimal comps are 2-2-2 anyway. Not being able to flex is a high tier problem

I already provided evidence proving they do care

Further, they do not publicly disclose actioning by policy, and as such we non employyes have no way of knowing how many folks have been actioned for this

Role Choice is not throwing.

Throwing inside of your role choice is Throwing.

Missing shots as Ana is not throwing.

Deliberately DPSing as Ana and ignoring your team is Throwing.

That is the difference.

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But no you did not. You just said they care because it is against the rules. That is not evidence.

Yes. I catch their freaking threads before they get 404’d and have had it happen to me multiple times. Rofl.

That isnt an accurate summary of what i stated

Can you link this evidence that they care? Actually want to see this (vague examples of the in game “rules” withstanding please) and we can discuss that. I didn’t see the evidence in the thread, only your words, so a link would be very nice of you :slight_smile: .

Clarify it, in that case, what evidence supports the fact that they care? Because they don’t.

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I have already provided these earlier in this thread

Link Please?
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I have not personally attacked you on this thread or on any other thread, in spite of your blatantly false claims to the contrary. Self-victimization is not only debasing to yourself, it is nonconstructive, for which I have criticized your comments on various occasions because electing to litter a thread with nonconstructive posts such as these is derailing. I believe you’re familiar with where this discussion goes, so I don’t feel the need to reiterate, but I would again emphasize that criticizing behavior or arguments is not the same as a personal attack, no matter how much you would erroneously like to interpret it as such (though you are certainly within your right to do so, just as you are within your right to believe the earth is flat). My earlier criticism on the speciousness of your arguments is applicable here as well.

And role choice is not the behavior being discussed here.

It’s abusing the role queue/lock system to shorten your queue time and consequently consciously and willfully sabotaging your team by refusing to fulfill the objectives of heroes within that role. I have clarified that point multiple times now; your refusal to address that point and instead to continue to draw up strawmen arguments is, frankly, rude. Again, you may correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you are intelligent and aware enough to understand that these two are not the same. If my assumption is correct, then the logical explanation is that your responses are simply disingenuous and not intended to discuss the point in good faith, or that your responses are just poorly disguised trolling.

I’ll let you think about that. I’m not really expecting a response, but as I have said multiple times now, if you would like to respond to hold an actual discussion, I’m more than willing. In spite of the fallacious nature of multiple of your responses to this point, I actually found your willingness to not simply stonewall for a large part of this thread to be refreshing and enjoyable, and I regret that you’re electing to cease that.

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Whelp, radio silence on their end tells me that they ran away cause the heat got a tad too hot for them. See you guys tomorrow to find another thread that gets derailed by this person. And to all the “rude” people who “debated” the troll: Hat’s off to you guys, you’re the real heroes on this forum.