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I think it’s a super powerful ability that can win fights but is well balanced with it’s restrictions and only nerf it needs is allowing overheal mechanics like giving shield or armor hp to anti targets to be in a perfect spot
Ah yes, the 1 way to cleanse a teammate of Anti is on 1 specific Tank. Makes sense.
Still, that’s one more than the 0 you claimed it to have.
Ana has a monopoly on the entire Support roster because no Support has any means to fight against Anti.
The fact that 1 Tank is the only character with counterplay to Anti is so blatantly bad balancing.
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Well, you just ignored:
There are plenty of abilities that can block nade.
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I honestly feel it should only do -50% healing, maybe -75%. The problem with this ability is is counters literally every single support except Lucio, who can still speed targets away to survive. It’s part of the reason he is ran with Ana or versus Ana. It’s one of the two ways to negate it on other heroes.
Trust me, Reddit isn’t much better, but at least the devs speak up there… even they pretty much avoid this hot mess of whiny Support players.
I agree that it needs a nerf, but reducing it’s duration by 1 second would be good enough IMO. It would nerf double main healer and nerf Ana who has been meta for two years straight.
She had the highest pick-rate in the game during f GOATS, at least on ladder.
She wasn’t popular in OWL GOATS but she was still the most picked hero in ladder GOATS, at least according to Overbuff.
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I think purple lasts too long–at least with things like dynamite around. Like I would like to see either one or the other nerfed.
Like, sure, it was one thing to be purpled when you could do a tactical retreat, but now being purpled AND burning?
Yeah, there’s no saving you unless you have a Zarya.
It’s only overpowered because it lacks sufficient counter-play.
The following characters can regularly cleanse themselves of the Anti-Heal effect:
- Reaper
- Mei
- Sombra
- Zarya
- Moira
- Tracer
The following can cleanse other characters:
- Zarya
The following can cleanse themselves via Ult:
- Echo
- Zenyatta
- D.va
We need more characters that can cleanse debuffs from other heroes.
The ability is a skill shot, landing a long nade or a sky nade requires far more skill than any other support. And as a rein, I always take into account the cooldown on her abilities and can react to them pretty easily. It’s a hard to hit ability which also leaves her with no sustain outside of sleep, another skill shot, if she throws it offensively. Its a strong ability but I think it should be.
Okay.
Every single barrier (Except brig)
DM
BG
Deflect
Mei wall
Iceblock
Things that cleanse it
Fade
Reaper fade
Translocate
Ice block.
Zarya bubbles.
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YOU aren’t… thus you aren’t actually countering her.
That’s how this works, buddy.
It’s like complaining that Reinhardt’s shatter is OP because “You aren’t actively avoiding it, so it hits every time” Well guess what? You can actively avoid it.
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Zarya bubble, an ability on a Tank
Matrix, an ability on a the actual worst Tank in the game currently, a literal throw pick.
Ice Wall, yes, a 10 second CD on a now-niche Dps hero. Useful.
No good Ana is going to throw Nade into Grasp. It lasts so short that theres no reason to not just wait it out.
Shields can’t block everything, all Ana has to do is Walk Forward …
Still, out of everything mentioned, 4/5 ways to deal with Anti are Tank Abilities. And the last being a long CD on a niche Dps.
This isn’t balanced, it’s oversight.
It’s almost like some things in this game counter other things.
And that sometimes you’ll be countered by those things, as long as the enemy uses 0.1% strategy, while you do nothing but spam abilities.
This all reminds me of a simple strategy to beat most heroes as Bastion.
Stay in recon when they assume you’ll be trying to set up, and poke them with recon’s gun… they use everything all at once, sometimes even ultimates.
Then you just… clean up.
Sometimes you can even hop into sentry and right back out, and hide… and watch like, 15 different cooldown abilities fly past. Meaning people spammed them the moment they saw you. Meaning they didn’t even think.
Rock paper scissors is the absolute worst way to balance a game and the laziest execution of a Counter.
This argument is so poor.
Are we going to defend release state Brig and say “Git Gud” learn Counters?
You seem to have missed the entire point I made, good job…
The point is that they LOSE because they spam, and because they think the game is played like rock paper scissors.
Your own point is valid, yet you expect an argument so that’s all you can see.
Good god.
Yeh unless you have Zarya your in strife. I’d rather it be purgeable with regular support abilities in some way (ie Bap regen burst cancels it but provides no healing) or it blocks an amount of healing before it wears off.
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