Who do you think is the weakest hero by them self

Personly i think by them self its pharah she needs a mercy pocket to be effective do to how easy of a target she is for hit scan heros

Edit:Sorry i think this was a bit un clear im not talking in a 1v1 duel or in a vaccume im talking like on a team in a game i think pharah with no poket is super weak and dont bring anything to the table. other heros out class her role handsomely.

And yes i agree in a 1v1 vacuum mercy or moira are the weakest

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If you think that, you don’t know how to play pharah.

Anyway I have heard somewhere that she may get a rework.

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Weakest hero by themselves ? It’s weird you say Pharah when Mercy literally can’t use 99% of her abilities without a team mate. You can not rez, you can not fly, you can not use her new healing passive to heal herself, you can’t heal, you can’t damage boost, etc without a team mate. Mercy by herself is a character that can walk and shoot a p gun. Mercy is the weakest character on her own because her whole kit design around playing with a team mate. Pharah still has independent flight, a rocket launcher, a boop, etc. with or without Mercy. Mercy literally can’t do anything but use a p gun by herself lol.

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Sombra or Bastion IMO

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By themselves it’s various supports since a good chunk of their power budget is devoted to enabling. Mercy is probably the prime example as all she has on her own is a 100DPS projectile weapon.

Mercy. She literally needs to be in someone’s Pocket and pray that they can do all the important things while she gives them a Small Buff.

I say Mercy. The pistol is the only thing she can use without teammates. For this reason I say, allow supports to use damage boosting abilities on themselves when no one’s around.

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Pharah alone has to change playstyle into a flanker instead of ‘‘haha infinite flight go brrr’’, but she is far from the rock bottom.

The answer is Mercy for supports and Sym for DPS. Mercy for obvious reasons and Sym because she requires pocketing to do more than just sentrybomb every minute or so.

Agreed.

So let’s take out the hypothetical of “By oneself” and just ask who is the weakest hero in the current state of OW?

I’d argue Moira on support, Bastion or Hanzo on DPS, and D.Va or JQ on Tank.

And personally, I think the game is good when Hanzo is bad and Moira is bad. Much healthier gameplay loops.

As for tank though, it’s hard because a really good D.Va is still strong against the right comp. She still has a niche as a pseudo-dive/Anti-Dive in matchups vs Ball, Monke or DF. I think she can be strong against a bad JQ comp, but overall she is an Anti-Dive Option who can simultaneously Dive, giving her insane flexibility in her niche. Yet so many players lack to the skill to succeed in this niche, so at the end of the day most of them would just get more value on Hog or Orisa.

Then there’s JQ. If the whole team invests into her playstyle and the player is decent, then she can dominate a lobby. But I’ve seen it so few times. Again, she feels like D.Va where that player would just get more value on Hog or even Zarya, who have more lethality and better survivability. And if the team is actually that invested and coordinated, then why not just play Rein or Winston, who have more utility, lethality, or mobility?

I just think the win cons on those tanks are too rigid and skillful for random players not in coms to consistently perform.

In a 1v1 duel scenario against each other hero in a vacuum (Like some sort of matrix of match ups)? Then probably Mercy. If you mean in general in terms of usability for team play as the weakest character, consistently speaking. It might be like a Mei maybe?

Do you mean completely alone?

Mercy

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I mostly agree with the support tank and DPS. on hanzo not too keen on saying he is weakest but he is on the low end. In terms of Bastion, 100 percent agree most will say bastion is strong most do not play with him at a high level, and in his kit right now he cannot survive and no mercy pocketing him doesn’t make him good. most support refuses to heal bastion so don’t start it. the stats don’t lie bastion is the weakest, lowest pick-rated and lowest win rated FOR a reason.

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Bastion is weaker than Hanzo unless the team is invested in the Bastion.

Sig, Bap, Mercy/Zen and Bastion can be a menace.

Despite what people say, is Sombra, the only one who I see to give problems is the one the team use to ignore and don’t counter.

Any tank except hog.

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yes, but look what you have to do to make him strong. you need an entire team to help him to make him good and at high ranks, no support wants to pocket or keep him alive because they rather support more mobile and the tank b4 bastion. it’s just how it is. Also bastion is the most neglected hero in the game also.

Agreed. Same reason why JQ is awful.

And Hanzo can just magically crit folks from across the map and drop them with zero team input, which is why he is slightly above Bastion.

Bastion is definitely the weakest, same as JQ, but with the right team they’re quite good.

agreed but I wouldn’t say quite good I would say more manageable on bastions case.

You haven’t played with a good Bap+Zen duo then. :joy:

Those 3 comm-ing and focus firing Discorded targets are insane.

Metal ranks, Sombra. High ranks, Pharah.