Not asking who, asking who is viewed as simply being W+m1. Basically who are the W+m1 Pyros of Overwatch in the community’s mind.
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My guess would be moira, bastion, rein and winston to be called that.
I hear that for Rein/Brig/Reaper more often than not.
But the truth is they have kits. McCree is the true w into m1.
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Brig, Dva, Junkrat, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Moira, Reaper, Rein, Hog, Sym, Zarya, Zen
The heroes that get pretty decent value from just moving to point and shooting at the stuff at point. I’m not saying they’re easy or low skill, but the skill floor on these guys is pretty damn low.
Mccree cant be called m1 hero because to many mccree players use m2 
That is true. They give us skill based McCree a bad name. But at least they have more than one button at their disposal.
if sym could just "w+m1"2win then it wouldn’t have taken an unnerfed double shield meta to cater every need for that in order for her to get prevalence for how long she’s been in the game.
but yes, she is seen as w+m1 despite how many hurdles to do that compared to the various hitscan heroes that are legit w+m1.
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I didn’t say the heroes aren’t skillful, just that they have a pretty low skill floor. Technically you could just hold m1 with sym on an enemy tank and get decent enough value. And, once again, this doesn’t mean the hero is low skill, just that they provide more value than others the instant you pick them up.
and I’m saying that’s not true. she just dies unless the enemy barely has 10% accuracy or she’s being hard team pocketed like in OWL or in unnerfed double shield meta.
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You’re taking this too personally, I play Lucio and I put him on the list. And A W+M1 Lucio also just dies unless the enemy barely has 10% accuracy. I’m just pointing out how someone who is super new to the game, in a match with similar people, can pick up these heroes and walk to point aiming and clicking at red things and do pretty well for themselves.
again that factually isn’t sym. at best it’d be w+m2 rather than w+m1 but even with completely new players, even if their also playing against other new players, someone trying to w+m1 with sym blindly will end up dying and not contributing much because
- 12m hard limited range
- sym’s really squishy for that range and for her 2.56s minimum charge up time (not even talking about lvl3 beam usage)
- sym’s beam literally starts off at 60dps
whereas shes against a cast that has many heroes like soldier, mccree, etc. who factually get more value from w+m1 because they have longer range, have more dps off the bat → much lower ttk compared to sym simply even in a w+m1 setting.
like you bring in lucio and even he at the very least has the capability to have his m1 land at range to actually have some qualification for “technically just w+m1 for value” in a factual sense (not that I think he is), but sym doesn’t even have that for her m1 ._.
tho disclaimer: I’m not saying people don’t have the perception that sym is w+m1. but factually, sym doesn’t just get value for just w+m1 because she factually has plenty of hurdles to do that in order to get value from it.
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