and our team has a Junkrat, we can expect high charge very frequently. Have some people forgotten that you shouldn’t shoot bubble?
I think that this is one of the main reasons why she’s always banned. I think if you’re in plat, you should already know this.
Please stop shooting her bubbles, even if it feels like she’s in it 24/7.
Maybe you should follow up on the Junkrat’s damage and help kill the Zarya. Sometimes you should shoot the bubbles.
Hard to do that as a support in spawn or getting followed by the other team’s Genji.
that is probably why zarya is strong since uncoordinated play?
i would think if perfect coms and focus target zarya would be an easy hero to beat. still that would require that EVERY player be on the same page on that team… i dont think thats the game today
but…
im not high ranking so i dont have a clue. i hate her myself since… WHY DONT YOU DIE!!! proceeds to shoot the bubble…
Then also shoot the bubble.
Doesnt matter if she is charged, if you pressuring her like crazy she will have to hide or die.
I usually go bastion against zarya.
I shoot bubbles on purpose (when my team is around) in order to break them quickly to create an opportunity to kill her.
In a perfect world. Get her supports then get her. But that’s not what happens.
Until the supports gets bubbles, you hyper charge Zarya, then get uber melted in the back because you ignored the Zarya.
Fun fact.
Junkrat can either mega charge the Zarya or pretty much beat her off the map if you allow it. If rat is CQC to Zarya and he manages to trap her out of her greed, follow on him instead of blaming him. If he’s spamming long-range, Zarya’s gonna try to get her bubbles by wasting time on it, go kill the backline.
Figure a way to improve your plays instead of blaming the rat, idk how it’s like in plat or lower anymore, but Junkrat’s not too great of pick in recent seasons in higher elos.
Zarya bans are not because of that charge entirely, it’s the fact she can chain her bubbles and be close to perma-bubbled if she isn’t too greedy. Then yes, the charge tops it and most people simply have no idea what to counter her with.
Also, 5 people in the team, either you all burst the tank down, if it doesn’t work, don’t waste 5 minutes on the game not killing the tank, go get the backline.
Nah supports are too hard to get in 5v5 lol
Its easier to melt the tank.
No, you actually want to shoot the bubble. Every time.
If you don’t shoot the bubble, she will run roughshod over your entire team. Her beam will absolutely shred you. You can try to keep your distance, but that’s also giving her team what they want, which is you not being able to contest an objective or stop the payload from moving.
So as soon as her bubble pops up, you nuke it until it breaks (it doesn’t take much damage to break said bubble). If she bubbles herself again? You break it again and then nuke her while she has no defensives to use. Which results in her dying or her falling back because she doesn’t want to take avoidable damage. Either one is a win for you.
The whole ‘don’t shoot the bubble’ thing hurts teams going up against Zarya instead of helping them. Zarya has insane damage potential if you let her build up beam charge, so you have to apply pressure to her constantly and make sure she stays on the back foot. Otherwise you’ll lose every single time.
It’s contextual, the reality is people don’t understand how to counter Zarya regardless of that.
Sometimes it’s better to not shoot her and ignore her (if your team is faster than her reaching your team). Sometimes it’s better to shoot the Zarya considering the average damage of the game is burst-level of crazy.
No, just no.
There is no ‘contextual’ thing here. If you ignore Zarya, she will rip you to pieces. Every single time. She has the highest damage potential of any hero in the game. If Zarya is able to build beam charge because you’re not applying pressure to her by destroying her bubbles, she will nuke you.
And you can’t just ‘stay away’ from her, because Overwatch maps aren’t built that way. If Overwatch had team deathmatch modes for QP and Comp? Maybe. Because your team could just ignore the Zarya and steer clear of her while destroying the rest of her team for their kills (she has limited mobility unless there’s a Lucio or Juno supporting her).
But with the official modes as they are? Every single one of them requires you to be in a fairly confined space where she can rip you to pieces if you ignore her, assuming your team is trying to contest objectives. You have to contest the point or push/stop the payload, and if she’s on the payload or on that point and you don’t do anything to stop her because you ‘do not want to shoot the bubble,’ you are going to die, over and over again, and Zarya’s team will win the game.
Assuming the Zarya knows what they’re doing, of course.
Good Zarya will still get high energy somehow.
Instead, force her first bubble. If she uses her second bubble, focus-fire her anyway to break the bubble and finally melts her quick.
If I have good supports and/or tanks, I find Symm chews through Zarya. The bubble fuels Symm’s beam as well. And the Zarya often seems surprised her bubble pops so quickly.
“just shoot her all the time”
That has to be a Zarya main.
This can work until you’re against a Zarya that actually knows what they’re doing.
No, that’s literally what you should be doing.
There are some tanks where shooting the shield does nothing, and you’re just wasting time. Ramattra’s barrier, for example? Yeah, don’t shoot at that instead; move to a better position and then shoot at his team or him. If you’re shooting his barrier, you’re just wasting time and ammo.
But with Zarya? If you do not shoot her bubble because you’re afraid of giving her ult charge, you will die constantly, and you will lose games constantly. You can either keep her on the back foot by constantly applying pressure to her, or you can constantly be on the back foot as she puts pressure on you. It’s one or the other.
I humbly think that Bubbled Zarya should be anti-healed. Just a thought.
At 0-40 energy, she will pretty much do nothing.
Doomfist divecomp loses the Zarya matchup trying to burst her bubble, but wins the matchup trying to grab the backline first.
I played 8 months of this in Open Division with either Maugas or Zarya and ironically, the only good matchups with Doomfist was to outspeed her because our tank was relunctant to swapping in a losing matchup.
Zarya is easily the strongest tank when it comes to uncoordinated randos, which is like 99% of the playerbase.
You SHOULD be popping the bubbles though, but you need to all be doing damage at the same time to really capitalize on it.