Then I’m sorry you only agree to see your view. There are many arguments against you, most of which you have deflected into the same repeated arguments you have stated since the beginning of this 200-post thread. I will finish with this:
You get out of Ana what you put into her. If you’re trash, you’re really trash. Getting forced to use Nade on yourself because your positioning is poor is terrible. Getting forced to use it on a Tank or DPS because you couldn’t hit enough shots to keep them up normally is terrible. If you refuse to see her weaknesses, and the skill required to make her effective, then I wish you good luck in countering her. Because you won’t with that attitude.
By that logic, Ana too needs to be nerfed because she’s even more of a must pick than dva.
If we’re nerfing dva, we need to nerf all the other must picks too. The more pickrate you got, the harder the nerf should be.
This is the blizzard balance philosophy and ana is no exempt from this.
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D.Va’s nerf wasn’t because she was a must-pick
but because her 3 second boosters invalidated some heroes and made her almost impossible to kill
more egregious than being a must-pick IMO
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It shows that you don’t understand the impact heroes have.
DVa was actually oppressive, in away she could pretty much do her job without being contested.
Ana has enough counterplay, that’s why she doesn’t get touched.
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What counterplay does anti-heal have? Just don’t get hit 4head? Run 4 second matrix and more barriers than is healthy? Pretend you got experimental Zarya on live team? Maybe your team should never get out of spawn and especially never try to contest enemy team on a chokepoint.
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only thing about her that doesn’t have counter play is her anti-heal
which is a death sentence
still oppressive
just not as much as D.Va was
I still believe her anti-heal should be nerfed to 50%
lmao “press of a button”. I notice people like you oversimplify things to avoid the nuances and complexity of a subject. Habit of making trash arguments
Anti heal is strong in death ball meta, weak in a dive meta, don’t see a need for a nerf, it’s part of deathball
Would it be OP then it would be also viable in non death ball comps
You aim your crosshair at a wall that happens to be next to enemy team and then you press a button.
There, I made it bit less simple. Anti-nade is not difficult to chuck around into a pile of enemy team, especially for it’s fight winning impact.
“Look, it doesn’t work against this one very specific meta with very specific heroes that hasn’t been around for ages therefore it isn’t overtuned”
Mmmmhmmmmm…
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Bad tanks, bad positioning
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All those top 500 and owl level tanks are just garbage mrite? Can’t avoid 4 meter splash radius projectile that can be chucked past their shields and matrix, so bad.
Anti-heal only gets better at high ranks.
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If Ana can just chuck in a nade without skill, then the enemy allowed it.
If enemy team, tank has good positiong and are aware it’s so much harder, especially when Dva and Zarya are Meta. DVa can nom nade and Zarya cleans
If you want to stop ana from chucking a nade, you’re gonna have to get past her team, the peels, the healpacks and map geometry she can huddle behind first. There’s a reason she doesn’t die very often, she’s not easily accessible unlike other healers. However her grenade is not restricted by map ceiling either, unlike other impactful utility like immortality field, so her nade can be thrown as high as you please to bypass map restructions.
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Elite players love Ana so she’ll probably remain virtually unchanged ad infinitum
I’m tired of writing this everytime someone complains about nade. Here:
Ana Nade 1
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She dies the same as every other support in GM
98 percentile on death counter she dies less than Lucio, Brig and Baptiste.
Basically what I said that her not being in the fight but being able to do everything from a safe distance gives her an advantage. But it does mean that she’s free to chuck around nades and the only ways enemies can counter is by having Dva eat it, as one barrier is not sufficient. But nobody in top 500 eats say, ML7’s anti-heals consistently.
Nobody is able to consistently stop Ana from lobbing out anti-heal one after another. Not the pros and not the ladder people. And it’s broken, because anti-heal cripples everything in a massive splash radius. And the only counter to it’s effect is a single target bubble.
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98%th is skewed because it’s so very few player, you can check top 20 of each support and you see the same death
Match duration?
According to your post, OWL stats doesn’t matter for ranked and it seems you despise OWL
OWL has proper teamplay and coordination, this means that it’s easier to be consistent with nade and getting value out of nade. (see setup and follow up)
Thus not directly comparable with ladderplay
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Things are actually supposed to happen. The game would be horrendously boring if it was purely defensive, or if a perfect parry always existed.
Unsurprisingly, purely defensive or defensively leaning characters are the ones that cause the most issues, regardless of if they’re a support or not. Almost no one ever complained about Zen being permanently meta through all of dive and goats, nor does Lucio particularly bother anyone. Compare that to the likes of Dva and Brig.