Its getting beyond outrageous now. Is this the new “face” of OW replacing Genji/Tracer?
She has been nerfed like 3 times in just over a month. Seems they will continue to do so until she is no longer the best support.
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The speed and mobility is pretty solid. They’ll have to mess with that I think. A few weeks ago I said that they will probably have to reduce these three things:
Ultimate healing rate.
Ultimate Cost.
Speed ring.
And someone gave me crap for it saying I was crazy she needed those nerfs without compensation. So far I’m 2/3 for those suggestions. And the funny thing is the devs went harder on it than what I suggested. I don’t think they want to mess with how her gun feels or her own mobility like flying or double jump, so if they think she needs nerfs, it might be on her speed. Unless they are going to nerf her heals or damage, which they could do but idk if they want to do that considering that just buffed Ana and Kiriko rates.
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I wish they would go in with a stronger nerf. And, to be honest, not throw in totally unnecessary support buffs to go with it. We don’t even know what the support role will shake out to be balance wise if Juno were reasonably balanced…so buffing supports right now because “they’re not doing well” compared to the outrageous Juno (nearly 100% PR in all SR, up to 56%WR, 380 picks in the T500 leaderboard) is just going to make them feel like nightmares when they inevitably forget they buffed those heros if they ever properly tone Juno down.
I’m a GM support main, generally a flex support player. I’m very interested in overall balance of the game…and I do like Juno. I think she has a fun and engaging kit that is balancable without being frustrating…but they have to actually understand HOW to do that.
Furthermore, we have two supports who are more similar than perhaps any other two in Lucio and Juno…I think the fact that just about everyone unanimously agrees that she is just far more valuable than him in nearly every scenario (and obviously in ones he is not as well) should be a pretty big red flag. Juno can have such an interesting and skill expressive kit but I feel like the team keeps confusing high pick rates with balance and skillful play. The support role is just at a crawl for being boring. All the last patch did for the role was make more heros on the overpowered scale, to be honest. I’m so frustrated that we have to wait months for them to reassess when they botched it so badly for several patches in a row. I’ve been a daily OW player since OW1s launch and this is possibly the most boring I’ve ever found the game. There is like no reason to boot it up and play when every game, from a support standpoint, is always the exact same snoozefest.
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They’ve nerfed her 4 times in 3 patches already. I’m sure she’ll get some in the next patch too. But here’s the thing. The last nerf wasn’t even a week ago. Best case scenario I think that you are probably looking at at least another 9 days. Worst case start of Season 14.
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I think theyre nerfing the wrong thing about her.
I think ana should do the most sustained healing (with the exception of moira orb+hand because after that she has to recharge) ana has just a short reload. Ana is good because while she has high healing, there is the opportunity to miss the shot and get 0 healing
With juno she does more healing than ana and with easier shots so even if you miss at first you can still hit most of them.
It feels absolutely dreadful playing as a tank against juno since you dont get the dps passive against her healing and you cant kill her either because of all her mobility
i dont even want to play i was out of suspension on the 11th and with soem hate towards juno and some players playing support or dva i dotn even knwo if i want ot play even thoguh i got the season pass even though i missedd most of the season
The question would rather be, what type of meta you would like to have? Because when Juno is not the best pick anymore, something else would come up and I would say the next in line (like all the last seasons…) would be Ana again, who could lead to another Ana/Kiriko comp with something exiting like Hog or Mauga as the meta tanks. Be careful what you ask for.
Its funny how people are sick of Juno after one and a half season, but not of Ana for like… the last half year or longer?
Juno is fun because of her mobility. You shouldn’t mess with that. Mess with her other numbers first as they have already done. The healing + range nerf was pretty big. The double ult nerf is now fine.
The next thing would be to revert the damage buff they gave her AND look at reducing Pulsar Torpedo by a few points. At all ranks of play, pulsar torpedo is carrying a LOT of value for Juno.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if her shift got nerfed by a second but I’d rather they nerf pulsars by 10 DMG back to launch state, and maybe speed ring by 1-2 seconds first if she continues to over perform
I think speed ring is hard to get definitive value out of at all.
Pulsar torpedo does like 75 dmg, 75 heal burst, and 16hps for 3 seconds. Pulsar is like a Brigitte passive and whipshot and repair pack all in one. However, it can affect nearly all units in the area.