What's with the defeatist attitude when teams don't win first round?

By “win”, I just simply mean capping the second point or pushing the payload the entire way. I ran into multiple teams during my session earlier that just plain gave up because we couldn’t take the second point in the first round or because the enemy took both points in the first round.

“Welp, we didn’t push the payload all the way, so I’m going Sym on attack now since there’s no point.”

What the hell kind of attitude is that? I see the same kind of thing if both teams push the point all the way or cap both points, but one team only has a minute while the other team has five minutes or so. They just don’t even bother. I encountered this particular scenario as well earlier and despite us running a decent comp during both rounds, everyone just decided to go DPS to throw in the third round because it was “pointless” to try.

I’m not sure why some people are so eager to count their chickens before they’ve even hatched. I’ve seen instances where we only push the payload like 20m on Route 66, but on defense we try anyway and we manage to hold it. Just because things don’t look in your favor doesn’t mean you should give up. After all, we’re all players here, so anything can happen.

It’s not like we’re bronze going against top 500 here or anything like that. The least you can do is try. If you don’t even bother to try, then of course your loss is imminent. Out of all the games I’ve played though, Overwatch seems to be the only one to make people give up so easily and sometimes it even happens during the hero select screen.

Hell, I had a teammate earlier that straight up said, “He picked Ana, so I’m not even going to bother.”, then he picked Torb on attack at Gibraltar and threw the match. He kept going on and on in match chat about how “Ana is trash”, “Nobody plays her these days”, then after we lost, he typed into team chat “blame the Ana for throwing” followed by “that’s why we lost”, then left. I just couldn’t believe it. This guy was ready to give up even before we left the spawn…

It just really makes me scratch my head sometimes when people like this queue up for competitive :thinking:

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Um… Wow… I thought this was a bronze issue (saw it down there with a mate of mine).

Never surrender!

I didn’t queue for comp to give up.

I’ve had it so bad that we couldn’t push the cart past spawn! We STILL didn’t give up and this was in plat! I even got everyone to spray the point that we pushed to and declared that we will win this! We lost… But that’s not the point. We actually all had a laugh and no-one gave up, even though it was hopeless.

Won more “lost” games than I can count.

People are weird…

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No idea why it quoted the whole post…

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Ah, yeah. I guess I should have specified that I encounter this in plat, sorry, lol. I guess I’m just getting a little sick of my teammates typing “gg” into match chat just because of one round. If we get stomped in the first round and they have 5 minutes left, but we manage to cap both points and only have a little over a minute, I’m not going to lie and tell you we’re going to walk away with the win.

It’s going to be tough, but you should at least try, ya know?

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People do give up way too easily in this game, it’s true.

I also don’t get it…

Yeah, I don’t get it. I was playing a Comp
Match on Junkertown and the other team was putting up a hell of a fight. We rallied at the end and managed to get the final CP in overtime. Then the two man group on the other team left. I was shocked and felt bad for the other team. They still had a very viable chance to win, but the two man just gave up. Makes no sense.

I think it’s just because of a few things. People being tired. When you screw up the first point. Say Hanamura. The defenders have to play for 8 minutes. Now say they can actually do it. That is super annoying to hold this one room for that long. Other times people have done their best. They held it for 7+ minutes. Than there’s one screw up. That’s it, wasted 7 minutes of their time, GG. Probably the main reason: This team sucks. I’m not bothering anymore. This is peoples way of a surrender button. If that was available.

I can tell you right now. When I’ve held a point to nearly the end. And the other team just does one thing to cap it. There are times you get fed up with people. Especially when you lose a good chunk of SR. Because the game never will understand you held this spot for 7 minutes. The win and lose are all that matter. With very little consultation.

You know what they say… When the going gets tough, the tough give up.

I find that the defeatist attitude comes when you have a crap team comp, there is refusal to swap around to make it work, then you inevitably lose. I’m not saying that there aren’t other times with toxic players, but I don’t think the attitude comes when you fight hard and have a close first round. It’s typically when you have 4 insta-lock DPS or 5 Support mains who all refuse to change to something useful.

I am a player that is heavily defense-oriented in most games I play. If I have the option to turtle, I happily turtle all day for as long as its needed. That made me gravitate towards maining heroes like the builders and Orisa.

That means I’m a MONSTER in defense. Its not uncommon for me to make 0% full holds in Assault maps. So, even if we aren’t able to cap the second point, I know I have a solid chance at winning just by defending it.

And then we have people that give up because we didn’t capped the second point, then complain about my Symmetra pick. And even that way, sometimes we manage to hold the second point, because I AM a monster at defensive gameplay.

The best part of Overwatch is that until the overtime bar drops all the way, the game is never lost. I had a ton of games that we cap the first point on overtime in round 3, then stomp the second point in the next push. Or cap a hybrid map in overtime and the payload never stops all the way to the end.

Trust Lúcio. Don’t give up, we can still win this.

Winning after a bad first round is totally possible. However at least 90% of time the team that performed better in the first round wins the game.

^ [CItation Needed.]

Most people are weaklings that are unable to fight hard for a win, and will rather give up than try it.

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