What are the meta picks this go round?
Support
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I am just surprised how accurate this replay is.
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I see orisa, bastion, junkrat, mercy and kiriko nearly every match so I guess that
Orisia/Bastion are the big picks.
Any support duo will work as long as it’s not Mercy/Lifeweaver + Lucio.
Sigma can work, but is more map dependent than the “W Horse”.
The other DPS could be anything. Echo and Mei are good. Ashe is always reliable.
If you want confirmation of what the meta really is, watch the World Cup finals at Blizzcon. (But ignore Saudi Arabia’s comp. They play around a Pharah one trick)
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But that was the meta last season 
As long as ana isn’t apart of that list its fine ^_^.
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Yep! 
Same as last season.
Nothing has changed much. The Orisa nerf did nothing to take her out of the #1 top tank spot. Especially when the #2 tank last season, Zarya, had most of her buffs reverted and she is still the #2 tank. Sigma and D.Va still work but… Orisa is still Orisa.
Bastion is still a great Damage pick. Almost a 100% pick rate. Due to how annoying I find them I feel its good to mention that Hanzo and Genji are both viable. Ashe, Junk and Echo are seeing a lot of play as well.
Support is anything. Ana is good with literally everyone.
Lucio and Illari are, imo, the ones you need to be wary of most since low healing output from the other support (like Mercy, or if teamed together) does not work well.
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I would say Ana is kinda part of the list. Since Ana works in basically every team comp.
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Aside the Bastion thing, I find this season to be a tad better for DPS than previous seasons after the Widow nerfs.
Its weird how people think Illari is some kind of healing god when even pre-nerf her healing was barely passable.
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Illari is the only healer in the game that can heal in two places at once. It’s actually broken on defense, like Dorado first point. You can play low ground and heal the Tank while your pylon is healing the high ground, out of LOS.
And her pylon’s ability to instantly react to damage is quite strong. Instantly recover damage when it happens saves a lot more lives than you’d think.
A Mercy can only save someone from a Doom if her beam was on them already, generally. As the damage is so fast it’s not really possible to react. The pylon will react though.
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I see DF, 76, Sombra, Mercy and FREAKING ANA again and again and again… it gets old after 20 rounds.
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Doomfist isn’t even meta though, that’s what’s funny. Tanks just play him so much because he’s the only Tank that’s fun to play any more. Every other Tank is either trash or boring. Hog being an example of trash, Orisa being an example of boring.
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The problem with DF is that its 50/50 if you get a god or someone who is doing nothing or feeding their brains out.
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In my experience I find that the biggest requirement for a Doomfist to work is a team that follow up on his plays. Nothing is worse than diving on Doom, risking yourself to make space, and seeing your team behind backing up.
Doom can do so much but he’s also so squishy that he can just explode without help.
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And she has lower healing to compensate for that. Y’all acting as if she was outputting Ana levels of healing in two places at once.
Bypass the choke, destroy pylon, Illari is trash now.
Yes because it heals for 35 hps while Mercy’s beams heals 55.
Its no different to an harmony orb (except it can be destroyed and has a 3rd of harmony orb’s range) and if you think that is meta defining or ‘‘strong’’ then maybe you really need to stick to playing with bots.
This basically boils down to whether or not the enemy has an Ana. 
And if the enemy has no Ana but Doom has one…mmmm yeah bb. 
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Except that we’re not in a meta that we need “Ana healing”. Right now we’re in a low consistent, high burst meta. Ana’s consistent high healing is very overkill and the resources could be better spent elsewhere.
Illari has the highest win rate of every Support. By a lot. She’s S tier, atm. You’re blatantly denying facts if you don’t acknowledge that.
Okay, maybe you don’t understand how the game and meta currently plays. I’ll try to explain it slowly for you.
Right now healing is incredibly high. So high that consistent damage is essentially irrelevant in games. The only way players can land kills is to do very high burst damage. That’s why Doomfists and Bastions are quite common, for example.
And to counter this very high burst damage, Supports like Illari are quite effective, as the healing is done instantaneously, without player input. Even one or two ticks of Illari’s pylon are enough to save a player from getting picked by Doom.
One tick can save someone from getting two tapped by McCree or Ashe, if one of the shots hits the body. A single HP healed is enough for someone to survive two Sym orbs. Etc.
The raw HPS isn’t what’s important. It’s the reaction and speed that the healing is applied, that instantly raises the TTK for any hero that would be damaging the target.
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low effort busted supports + orisa and bastion… this is the no hands meta.
the npc meta or the casual meta. xd
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Bastion, Orisa, Sombra, Hanzo, Ana…
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