I’m not one to sit here and blame my low Rank on others. But I will say that I’m rather new to the game compared to a lot of others. I’ve maybe played like two or three seasons. When I first started, I usually was ranked somewhere mid to low gold. And even high silver at times.
Now I’m stuck in bronze. This might sound like an excuse but It’s all because I also got a bunch of my friends into the game, because they were sick of BR games. I thought this would be a nice game for all of us to play together. But honestly they are bad outside of maybe 2 of them. The rest just refuse to get better at the game but want to play comp. And this has derailed me down to low bronze. And I didn’t really think anything of it as I thought if I solo que my placement test and did good. It would just reset and put me back where I belong. But that sadly isn’t the case. Despite me wining 8/10 of them and doing what I considered very well.
And I thought it was maybe just because I suck more than then or the game just boosted my rating. But when I open que, I’ve stayed in gold. And I stop playing tank with them in role que and slowly my sr has been going back up. I don’t want to mean, as I prefer support but it’s just going lower and lower with them.
Is there any-tips on how to carry or something? Should I just make a new account?
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You could try making a new account. Or alternatively just give up on Competitive altogether. For the time being anyway. Me and a bunch of people have taken to doing scrims and pugs in custom games. If you want in then let me know.
It can help a lot to play with and against skilled players because then you can get a feel for how the game actually plays at a higher level and then you can understand the game a lot better. I actually think that’s better than getting vod reviews and so on.
The problem is the game actually goes out of its way to actively discourage you from playing with friends by penalising you with more difficult games and potentially longer queue times. As well as straight up just not letting you play outside of a certain range.
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Bronze is a great rank it’s very fun so enjoy it while you can, and I highly doubt it’s just your friends that’s making you lose. I would understand if maybe one or two games they were struggling but you’re saying from gold to bronze which could easily be -1000sr. I really want you to think about if you’re playing a role you like that’s compatible with them and or if you’re playing your main. Like for example if a friend of yours is playing tank with you but both of you play off tank it’s probably not going to go over well, or maybe you’re on support with a friend that’s a mercy main but you main the same character. Think about that and then think about your positioning, in other words think about yourself before them hun because like unpopular opinion but the rank system is pretty accurate. Bronze players play like bronze even if they were gold before and so on if any of that made sense 
It’s very hard to rank up with friends who don’t also deserve to rank up. In my experience the group will sink (or float) towards it’s average, rather than letting one of the members climb while the rest stay put.
My advice:
If you want to climb, like you truly are underranked and really want to climb, solo queue sometimes or get a second account to play with friends on. The second one is usually better, because it won’t feel like your friend are destroying your solo q progress. You might also have more fun with them, because the second account won’t feel so important.
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Oh I would love to be apart of it. I have had some vod done. But I agree, with I will only play better if I’m able to experience higher lever games of play.
And yeah I definitely agree about them penalizing harder for being with friends. Which like I understand matching a full stack team against a full stack team. But at least in my case, it’s usually a guaranteed lost. But yes ilk definitely play with you all any times.
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Glad to hear it! This is the link. Will be great to have you join some of our games.
We are thinking of playing tonight in about an hours time.
I play comp in a stack on this account, my “main”, peak low diamond.
I have another comp only, soloQ, instalock, no comms, mid masters tank account. Just create another account and focus on the things you can control.
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Well that’s the thing. Im in no way saying that the rank system isn’t accurate. Im noting saying it force 50, or smurfs have me stuck in bronze. I don’t think I’m in any way above a gold max. But when I literally say I lose lots of points consistently because of my friends. It really has been at least 1000 sr lost. And I’m not a mean person. I’m not the type to just not play with people who want to play or call them terrible. But they really just don’t care I feel and I’ve sent them lots of videos for them to Understand how certain plays and what to do as them. But they won’t even watch them. Or lead to arguments when I get frustrated and start criticizing certain aspects of their game. Example like my friend as a noob started off playing Orisa because she’s beefy and gun goes pew pew. I had to keep correcting him on the fact that when he shoots her shield out, he will shoot it so far ahead. It would go pass the enemies. And he still does it! And I can understand if when I play alone I’m still losing and not climbing. But as stated, I played open que and tank role que alone for a while. And have climbed up to silver with tank and gold on open que. But I stay bronze one support and DPS playing with them.
And I mean I am at fault too because as you said, I will just get frustrated and main who I am main. In this case someone like zen for support. Who definitely isn’t the strongest healer. But I’m either not good with other supports because honestly haven’t put in the time(pretty much all of them.) or they just bore me play with them so like mercy and bap. And also it might sound goofy but I try to play characters my friends don’t so we never have to worry about our interest overlapping. Hence why I don’t try Anna or moria.
As for positioning, I of course need to work on that and more of my skills just to rise in rank anyways. But it’s so much that goes into playing with friends. Especially full stack. Like them wanting to play and try to get good with only off tanks. Or if one places shield, their shield is positioned wrong. And I feel decent at zen that I can when a lot of my fights, but without peel, which they aren’t map aware of their surroundings. I do usually lose to good dive players. But I’ll take what you said into consideration
I’ll be honest if my friend sent me a video on plays to do with them I probably wouldn’t watch it either😂
It’s bronze bestie I think if you would try to take a little bit of initiative even on support to push up behind the shield the enemy team would probably back up, so maybe try that if you already don’t when that happens.
I can’t really say much else because I don’t really have that problem with my friends because all of us are like equally trash at the game👀
Yeah thank you. I think the second account is probably the best strategy until idk, I can get good to the point I can actually carry a team. But that will be hard. And yeah I mean I do enjoy playing with them a lot more than randoms. Just be sucking losing five in a row.
When you play comp with them, think of it as enjoying game night with friends! instead of winning as the end goal, that’s for your comp account.
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Just enjoy playing with your friends, still try to win and enjoy the mode, but rank is just a number. The higher you climb the harder it will be to keep playing with your friends especially if they dont want to put in the work to rank up. Its not worth the climb rn anyways.
Also If you are playing in a group of more than 2 or 3 theres also no chance you are going to be able to boost all of them into a higher rank unless you are SIGNIFICANTLY better than the rank you are trying to boost them into.
I have a separate account for Solo Q, no comms, tryhard. Give that a try!
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Heartily seconded. Bronze Life is the Good Life.
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Yeah that’s what someone else pretty much said. That they punish you for playing with more friends, which I’m definitely coming to find out is the case. So yeah, I have now just come to the point of like you said. Enjoying the game with friends.it’s hard at times not to get upset, but for the most part I do realize The higher up I go. The harder these people will be.
Overwatch is probably the hardest fps game to carry. Because of ablities, relatively slow time to kill, massive support healings etc. You can put a T500 player into a team of low bronzes, and they will struggle against golds.
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That’s what I’ve come to realize. I’ve pretty much been a COD player for the two years so coming in without expectations. I assumed the more people you know that you play with the better you will do. But I surely was wrong. And yeah since they refuse to actually learn and get better. I think I’m do something like the person above said and make a separate account.
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Sadly I got the same experience with a irl friend of mine: I got him interested in the game and, after he reached lv. 25, he asked me to play comp together.
I was highly doubting his ability to play the game in a competitive environment (I mean he had just started playing basically and didn’t know a ton of stuff you need to play at a decent base level) but, in the name of friendship I decided to play with him.
When I got my dps on the border to bronze I stopped.
That was my limit and I wasn’t willing to fall down even more by playing basically a 5v6 (not his fault, he was just a new player after all).
So in the end I just stopped playing comp with him and, the times we play together, I ask for QP.
There’s no other solution unless you are REALLY high ranked in skill and can carry your temmates with ease.
But if you are high-silver/low-gold like me, you cannot really do that, even in bronze.
There are two things you can do imo:
- Buy an alt account to play with them;
- Stop playing comp with them and force QP if they really want to group up;
The bonus solution would be to get a lot better at your main heroes so that you can carry them but it sounds painfull tbh. 
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Ok well yeah you summed it up perfectly, even down to the me being high silver low gold. I’m definitely not good enough to carry in basically what is like a 5v6 or worse depending on how many friends play. And see I wish I had known that placements aim to either give or take a couple hundred SR. But typically keeps you near your last placed rank. I would have stopped playing before hitting bronze.
And my issue is also that’s all they want to play, because they want gold guns or somehow feel that with just their skill and knowledge alone they can climb. Or maybe they don’t want to idk honestly at this point. Like I have one friend who’s my main duo partner who got me into the game. I trust and always wish to play with him, but he’s been playing since the game has dropped and he’s now burned out on it and pretty much waiting for OW2. The other one…… he’s pretty much like your friend, but won’t listen. When you say buy an alt account, can I not make one?
It’s a “sticky” situation to be in, in my case I was pretty worried of offending my friend by saying I didn’t want to play comp with him and, after a while, finding excuses became ackward.
In the end, he stopped playing after a while anyway cause he got into Tarkov. But I wish he had continued playing qp for a bit more and get an hang of the game. I think he could be pretty good with enough time and effort.
Are you console? In that case sorry, I assumed you were on PC and there you have to buy another copy of the game to get a new account.
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