What players NEED

Defeatist? I’m the one who thinks that through increase of your own skill is how you win and that the game is good. It’s the other people who think Oh its’ the matchmaker, oh it’s the balance, oh its my teammates, oh its evil stupid devs who just don’t care, the game stinks, but I want to be good at it, and if it was just changed to be just how I want it to be THEN I’d be good, I swear!

THAT is defeatist.

The devs continually change the game because there are problems they feel need addressing. If nobody ever complained about problems with the game, nothing would ever change. The devs need community feedback to survive.

Right, and wrong.

Yes feedback is important, good feed back, feedback that is actually measured and insightful. But that is not what this community gives. They criticize literally every choice, everything, i mean 100% without exception, everything. There is no right answer. Every action, or even every inaction, behind every door, is a complaint. I have been on these forums for years, and seen every single thing, even all of the things the community EXPLICITLY asked for, treated like garbage and criticized ruthlessly.

Now I dunno how much sort of managerial type training you’ve taken, but it’s doesn’t take much insight to know that if there is a party that gives you negative feedback no matter what you do, and even when some of the things you do are literally exactly what you asked, where every single possible action is always wrong, THAT is not helpful, that is not productive, that is not anything that is of any value to anyone. How is one to sus out he good feedback from the bad, when it’s all bad all the time and every single person, even when disagreeing with each other, are all so sure they are right and the devs must be idiots for not listening to them?

And furthermore, when the party gives negative feedback on literally everything, there comes a point when you must, rightly, conclude they are a bad actor, they have no intention of being helpful or productive, they are just toxic.

Lemme tell you, if I were the dev of a game like overwatch, I would get nothing productive at all out of a source like the forums. I would listen to feedback from test groups of knowledge players at different skill levels who I know to be sane moderate and reasonable people. The broad community feedback a place like these forums gives? Worthless, utter garbage. A cess pool of angry salty poor sport man-babies who all want the game made just perfectly to suit them so they can climb and win without changing anything about their play.

You have some brown on your nose, just, right there on both sides, and up it and on your upper lip, and on your lips and chin.

Dude, you went on a complete rant there. You almost seem like you are being targeted personally, and are personally offended by every bad thing Blizzard has been criticized for, and have been personally offended by Blizzard not getting the credit they deserve for “giving players what they ask for”.

Name one thing I have asked for that Blizzard has given me in OW? Go on, I’ll wait.

I criticize the bad things Blizzard does, because they are bad. I have personally come and thanked Blizzard for every single change to OW they have made which I have asked for.

Seriously dude, wipe that brown off your face, it stinks.

Players had it and abused it. Thats why its gone.

Current system is pretty good with exception of placement system on new accounts. If they fix that and punish people who are manipulating sr, current comp and matchmaking system is fine.

And anyone caught smurfing should get the death penalty

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Avoid slots don’t really do anything for 90+% of the playerbase who rarely encounter the same players over multiple games.

There has never been a permanent and unlimited “avoid as teammate” option. What are you even talking about?

No, the matchmaking is broken, the rating system is broken. There are several forum posts dating from when the game first started talking about it.

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What about ladder mobility? Queues are too long, matches are blown too often, comp time is limited for most. There needs to be a seasonal reset so people can re-jostle for their place on the actual, as-is, live/current ladder - based on a population that plays.

It’s a low pop game right now. Bordering on dead during off-hours. Someone can park an account anywhere and come back to it with entirely different skill, but the rewards were easily collected, and matches will be disrupted. People can win-trade with/against the same groups because of how sparse some ranks have become.

That is not fine. There has to be a reset because we’re still laddering on a decrepid skeleton of accounts distribution, crystallized back in 2017.

Long queue has nothing to do with matchmaker. Its caused by player base who want to play more dps than tanks.

I am not saying comp system as whole is ok. But matchmaker is doing his job well, he works with mmr. MMR works well too. Problem is with initial placement system and with people manipulating their rank. If these two things will be solved, we all will get much better feeling from comp and games will be a lot more balanced.

Reset will not solve anything, it would only greatly amplify current issues.

Btw why did you change your name Receipt? :slight_smile: or is this your new alt?

From what i remember, there was unlimited avoiding but it was set to certain number after some people started complaining that they cannot find the game because people were avoiding them just for hero choices. Meaning avoid system was highly abused.

You complaining about this is kind if weird imho, because you might be one of those who would overuse it too. I play frequently and there is really no reason to use avoid feature at all. Unless you play deep in low bronze or in gm/top500.

there was never an avoid for life in live play. Players who I would avoid are throwers and toxic players. There are lots of people that I would prefer to never have to interact with again.

Wth, i am pretty sure we had unlimited avoid before that. I clearly remember it was issue and they removed it and changed to avoid as team mate for 2 and then for 5 people.

Oh wow, that’s incredible. Why haven’t you hit T500 yet?

Oh right - because that’s so hilariously unimportant they should be removed from the game. It’s fully possible that you’re getting multiple medals because you’re baiting your team while you throw.