What part of my PC is doin this? (again)

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I recently made a thread asking what part of my PC is causing my game to freeze after 2 games (now I can’t even play 1), and FPS overall is a bit worse now too.

It’s not overheating. I got MSI Afterburner and put fans at 100% constantly, temps never went above 45, and averaged 30 - 40. I also put a fan next to my case and had AC on full, sitll froze.

I also updated my PCI-E drivers, but that didn’t change anything. Someone suggested my GPU (1050 TI) is too new for my PC (all other parts are from 2013). The only thing I can think to do now is factory reset and see if that does anything, though I don’t really want to do that.

If anyone has a clue what’s causing this, it’d be much appreciated.

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Do you happen to have spare parts?
If you did have say a compatible cpu for that motherboard/ a gpu you could ensure the problem isn’t there.

My guess = faulty motherboard or gpu, but am not an expert :smiley:

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Does your PC freeze when playing other games that place a similar load on your system?

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Power supply? Those going bad and not supplying enough power can cause your computer to freeze…

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I don’t play many other cpu / gpu intensive games to tell, but in cities skylines it is still an issue, but hardly. Nothing compared to OW. It doesn’t happen otherwise, like watching YT, so I don’t think it’s power? Not sure though

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I dunno, maybe your RAM is having a problem?

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Download Fortnite and Apex. Play em to stress the system. Crashes mean a hardware problem is most likely. No crashes means OW may be corrupted. Go from there.

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Tech support forums may help you more.

But lets see what we can do for you.

First off, monitoring and logging.
I prefer open hardware monitor, it lets you handily graph your temps and records a resettable min/max for not just temp, but usage, clocks, and power

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Stress testing.
Are you only using the game as your benchmark?
Is it only this game that is causing crashing?

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Any errors?
In game, win logs, bsod, etc?

Fourth - settings
What are your in game settings?
Afterburner settings?
Any other hardware specific settings?
Any overclocking?
Windows power settings?
Have you ever changed any system files or the registry in any way? (including virus removal)

Fifth - smell & touch test
Open the case, is it clean, does it smell like bluesmoke?
Are the vrms hot? - these often arent captured on standard temp sensor readings.
Are all contents fully seated? Actually reach in there, push, and check. Dont assume since youve never unplugged anything recently things are still good! I’ve even had people who are heavy walkers cause these problems.

Sixth - write it down!
Write it down!
If you make a change, notice a change, or have a benchmark.
Write. It. Down.

Seventh - basics
Did you restart?
Did you hit the start menu, power button, press and hold shift key while clicking shut down? Then start back up and try again.
Did you shut down, unplug for 30s?
Did you run sfc /scannow?
All driver and windows updates?
Did you run windows disk cleanup utility?
Virus scan? (i suggest malwarebytes)

Eighth - backups
Is your computer currently, or was it oreviously backed up? If not, do it now!
Do you have access to spare compatible parts?
Spare cables?
This is a longshot for most… But do you have spare power source, backup battery, or UPS?

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What kind of settings you play? Considering you are saying all other parts are from 2013, I am figuring you have cranked up the settings perhaps because of your 1050, which could probably handle the settings you took but your other hardware, mostly your CPU and RAM, could not which results in a bottleneck.

What CPU do you use? How much RAM? What’s the load on your GPU and CPU? Is it low for one, high for the other??

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What are your specs?

Also it might be worth a hard wipe of the PC and start from scratch. My brother is running into a problem himself where he’s running 2 HDD’s, one has his current Windows 10 64bit OS with Intel Architecture while the other has an old Windows 10 patch with AMD architecture build still on it as well the previous Windows 7 AMD stuff as well. The combination of stuff is causing his PC to hard reset all the time at the height of CPU load.

Conflicting architectures/programs/OS’s will absolutely cause you problems if you’re using HDD’s with older data.

Also, when you update your GPU, make sure you’re using the “custom install” feature to wipe old GPU drivers from your storage, conflicting drivers usually won’t cause you any issues, but every now and again they’ll screw with it something fierce. There’s an Nvidia utility online that’ll wipe any previous driver off your system.

Also a 1050/1050ti is a bottleneck regardless, and I would highly recommend getting something higher in the 900 range of cards (for availability, power, and budget) or higher 10 series. The 1060 for example, was deemed underpowered when it was announced.

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I’ll start checking a bunch of this stuff tomorrow, thanks for the help

All low / off, 100% render scale. Never changed.

AMD fx -4350 quad core 4.2ghz

8, degraded to 7.1

Both usually pretty low. Disk I notice is usually at 100% on and off, randomly?

I’ve changed nothing recently. The issues just started occuring, I never changed anything that could start these changes, so it might just be old hardware malfunctioning?

I’m thinking of just starting to save up for a new rig at this point. Maybe one that can handle 1050 TI, ulness you still suggest getting a new one along with it?

Thanks you all a bunch for your help!

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Solid advice but why would you ever use Fortnite instead of an actual stress test?

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Might just be old hardware in general. That being said, let’s see what else we can do to ease the situation.

Do you have a system monitor? If not I recommend CAM or something like it that can actively track thermals and usage.

When was the last time you dusted your heatsink? Applied new thermal compound?

A 1050ti isn’t a bad card, but it’s a lot like a 750ti or GT710, they’re lower end designed to do the bare minimum to get by. I’d honestly recommend a used 960 or 970 over a new 1050ti. They’re usually cheaper due to it being almost 2 gens behind, but I was getting 180fps on the 960 I had without issue. It’s a budget friendly option, but keep in mind that higher end newer cards will always be a better long term option.

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The answer to your question depends on what you mean by actual stress test. If you mean a more taxing game then the answer is because free. If you mean a synthetic stress test then the answer is because synthetic stress test.

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My guess is your power supply is too small.
The newer cards really chew power

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It sounds to me like your processor can’t handle the other parts of your computer at least that was my problem when I had a similar issue my processor was bottlenecking everything but I just built one computer I don’t know a whole lot about them there is I.T Facebook pages you could jump on they can iron you out

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Oh anither basics tip.

Trying running borderless windowed.
Turn off any/all overlays.
Dont alt tab at all after launching the game from a fresh restart.

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I run the same proc on ine of my pcs.

On low everything try locking frames to 90 to start just as a test.

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MSI Afterburner, if that counts. It does track temps, as far as I’ve looked into it

This may be it. I only ever opened my PC since 2013 to change GPU. I don’t do it because everything is perfectly balanced in there, like PCI-E, making that work again is a pain, same with the HDMI port. I had to use another part of the PC to balance it so it isn’t wonky. I’m worried if I do anything inside everything will fall apart.

If I do build a new rig, I’ll look into thos two, maybe sell my 1050 TI to cover some of the cost, if there’s notihng wrong with it (is there even a way to check it’s all fine, and in sellable condition for a certain price?)

Yeah, my CPU is old plus whenever I tell my friends what CPU I use they laugh that I use AMD so… a new one may be in check?

Overlays as in like MSI Afterburner’s FPS and Temps checker?
I do alt tab a lot, so I’ll try that alongside borderless windowed soon tm

I’ve locked it to 60 for now (60hz monitor), but I still get around 4 - 19 fps at the beginning of every game for around a minute, then it’s the constant freezing.

Thanks again for everyone’s help!

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Does it happen in other games?