What is wrong with this matchmaking?

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It seems like the game just doesnt want you to reach higher ranks. Every day is like:

  • Got in game, play comp: Win 2 matches, good teammates. Not a damn doomfist onetrick (Or any other onetricks). Get very close to next rank (Diamond 2).
  • Next 5 matches, 5 Defeats: 2 games with a onetrick (Both was doomfists onetricks), 1 game with a quitter, another 2 with terrible teammates. Down to Diamond 4 and almost to Diamond 5).

I mean, does the game thinks that just because you won 2 games in a row, you can carry onetricks that probably have a lot of avoids and DPS/SUPS that gets 1/8 score in the match? What is wrong with this matchmaking?

Besides, it seems so unfair the win and lose percentages you get. Losing 1 match sometimes makes me lose all the % i gain by winning 2 matches. It seems like you just have to duo to rank up.

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No. The matchmaker only sees everyones MMR when it sets up lobbies. It was just luck of the draw if you got a one trick or not.

Though yes, if someone has been avoided a lot and you have not yet avoided them - you are more likely to get them on your team naturally.

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nothing wrong. I was last season 4 times one game from reaching Plat, and now I m Silver 4. Matchmaking is fine seems

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Itā€™s always been a thing that thereā€™s a bunch of downward pressure at the SR ranges between skill tiers.

Because people got their max rank for the Season, and now they can slack.

Easy fix for that, is to just duo queue with somebody in the skill tier, that you want to be climbing into.

Gets you past those weird deadzones on the SR ladder.

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God I donā€™t like doomfist, not playing with, against, or asā€¦ boring hero that makes games miserable.

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Whenever I commit to playing a long solo queue session in comp, over time this ALWAYS happens:

If I go on a very positive run (like 8-2), I will get a streak of bad teammates and go 2-8.
If I go on a very negative run (like 2-8), I will get a streak of great teammates and go 8-2.
If I go on a neutral run (like 6-5), I will get a streak of average teammates and go 5-6.

I always end up in the same place, over long periods of time.

The only way this cycle ever stops is if I get a group of at least 3 of us, even if they are mediocre for the rank. Because now instead of 4 slots going to randoms, thereā€™s only 2 slots. So the chance of a thrower or deranker or boosted rookie is cut in half, and thusly my losses are also cut in half. The math is quite simply that if I have a 50% winrate one season, Iā€™ll get a 75% winrate by bringing exactly 2 groupmates. (after that itā€™s diminishing returns because 4-5 stacks are much more likely to get against 4-5 stacks that have smurfs).

I have absolutely proven this a couple of seasons ago. And the wild part is that my wins while grouped gave me more progress than solo wins, and my losses while solo lost more progress than if I was grouped!!

I donā€™t think itā€™s by design, but this certainly is the result of matchmaking. This game now requires groups in order to avoid problem players on your side, while at the same time taking advantage of problem players on enemy side.

It really sucks and it truly is the result of the f2p model. Matchmaking cannot ever be fixed.

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Iā€™m convinced that nothing is wrong with the system as is: I assume the developers want you to be upset and stuck at a level you canā€™t climb out of so that you are forced to play more to climb, then they give you impossible games to win so you go on losing/derank streaks, then they have people gaslight new users with statements like, ā€œoh, 15 losses? and you tried your hardest on those 15 guaranteed losses? sounds like a skill issue.ā€ The ā€˜problemā€™ rests in a system rigged to make players play more while gaining less satisfaction. I think itā€™s only a problem if everybody realizes whatā€™s happening.

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Play more mobile heroes and Doomfist is actually pretty fun to deal with. As LW or Juno I like it when Doomfists decide to throw hands with me.

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OW2s ranked system has always been broken. Last time it functioned properly was in OW1.

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I confirm your feeling
last 30 games: 8 wins. 22 lost. As healer.
From silver 3, I fall down to bronze 2. I even had 10 lost game in a row.
Impossible to stop my falling. I go lower than my placement.

What Iā€™ve seen (same as you)

  • I played vs deranked people. Everyone have 20 kills, heā€™s got 50 kills. Iā€™m not kidding.
  • I played vs cheaters. Widow with 3/4 headshotā€¦ then swith to junkrat.
  • 1 Played with leaver each 5 games.
  • My teammates are more stup*d than my chair each 3 games:
    • your dps takes widow when you fight against sombra and tracer
    • everybody forget the payload
    • you have a non stop flow of players rush alone against 5 enemies.
    • launch your ult to kill one people (maybe but a lot of junkrat knows what I mean) during a non critical moment
    • In silver/bronze the main objective is ā€œkillā€. not the group, not the payload, not the point.

Iā€™m able to adapt ( pick brigitte vs close fighters, play with position, etc) and still, you donā€™t see this gap in the other team.
There is not logical explanation. You cannot be bad suddenly from silver 3 to bronze 2. I admit that I do sh*t sometimes but I admit that the matchmaking doesnā€™t help :wink:

As support, do you ever try to get out of bronze? :smiley:

Blizzard is unable to restore basic functionnality from Overwatch 1 like find group so pick up is a truly nightmare, I confirm that all is done to stay where you are, force you to be carried to go up. If you are good, for sure, you will be placed in GM, platinum, whatever. Iā€™m not so good, I was gold before and I felt to bronze where Iā€™m stuck.
You learn nothing with bronze peopleā€¦ you just adapt and pick their bad habits and you stay in bronze

Against deranked people, I have a suggestion: based on deranked people detected (so easy), permit to bronze to play in a Platinum, Master and GM game. It will be fair and so fun. Imagine, you will feel what we have in silver/bronze when a total stranger do a mess in your game. This will be the most interesting feature in this game.

For now, I will stop, this is the first game where Iā€™m not able to progress and since OW2, unable to build a team to progress easily.

Restore the ā€œfind groupā€ instead of Warcraft crossover. Oh wait, money first.

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there is zero benefit to making games so awful that nobody wants to play your gameā€¦

if they could make the matchmaking better they would

furthermore, climbing, smurfing, bronze to GM, etc, would all be impossible if anything was actually forced

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A developer who is incompetent but insists that things are improving, despite the fact that they are getting worse, and who is proud of his or her own high opinion of himself or herself.

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Iā€™m convinced they fired someone who left a dead manā€™s switch, so now the matchmaker is malicious and they canā€™t figure out why.

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[Insert James Franco about to be hanged meme]
Solo Queuer ā€œFirst time?ā€

Yeah OP thats life. Even if you have a duo, RNG team mates can be bad and when they are bad they are INSANELY bad. Unless you are doing placements, if you lose 2-3 in a row, you should stop playing that role. Straight up.

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Sure there is. they can target the more addicted players and force worse teammates on them because they know theyā€™ll keep playing anyway.

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