What is the deal with Bronze support?

Watching my son, and myself play, I’ve noticed a pattern. I know I belong in bronze, I’m not saying I don’t. I could improve.

But the majority of the games I play, even if i’m not pushing as hard as I normally do, or my son is doing well, and making space, and not dying due to it.

When the enemy tank pushes forward, my supports, or my son’s supports stop healing the tank, and just do heck all else?

And mostly, it’s them switching to doing damage, and no healing whatsoever…

Mostly I keep noticing, when we lose, it’s cause the enemy team actually gets their team together, stops being afraid of me or my son, and heals their tank, or dps during the push.

And nearly every time, our healers, get scared, run away, or just plain refuse to support their tank. At all…

I have no problem with pushing. And I don’t usually stray too far ahead. I always make sure i’m in LOS of healers…

Yet me or my son don’t get heals, even though the supports are literally staring at me or him, and watching us die, doing nothing but either dps, or just watching…

Why? It’s so frustrating when you feel you’re playing decent, and suddenly you die within seconds because the healers stopped, doing anything…

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Climbing out of bronze is all about what you can do /without/ support from your team. Bronze players are the bottom of the barrel. You essentially CAN’T expect them to help you. You need to manage your cooldowns and HP in such a way that you stay alive and kill people. If you have to abuse health packs or play Roadhog then so be it.

Odds are your decisions and gameplay aren’t as good as you think they are. In bronze if you contribute pretty much anything at all you will win games.

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easiest way to escape bronze (game plays the way you’d expect it closer to gold with even mid-high silver being pretty good) is to just abuse a busted hero or to go self-sustain (s76, mei, reaper, hog, ball, and tracer though she’s risky cuz you need a decent tank or you’ll get deleted in a 5v1). mccree will continue to be extremely overpowered for the next 4 days and mei is busted in low ranks as well.

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I’d have expected bronze supports to be healbots tbh

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You would think so, but mostly they’re scared as all can be. I’ve very rarely come upon one that was a heal bot. Back in OW1, yes. But nowadays no.

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A half-decent DPS Moira can DPS her way out of Bronze. It’s just that Bronze is full of DPS wannabes that don’t know or don’t care about when to DPS or when to Heal.

There are Bronze healbots, but they are Bronze for good reasons, like a Mercy who can’t priorities heals or repeatedly does stupid rezs. I have been there myself and I still slip from time to time.

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many are but they suffer from tunnel vision and dont turn around. so often times they may just heal their tank the entire game but never notice the ashe or widow on high ground behind them begging for heals.

Treat your team like npcs until you get to diamond. 9/10 they’re dead weight, and relying on anyone in this game will get you killed.

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In bronze it’s just a team deathmatch
Make kill is the only thing you have to do no matter your role.

Expect nothing from your team, it’s not even sure they will heal you as tank, dps you mostly never receive heal

Yeah, people don’t heal in Bronze. It makes climbing very hard, even if you belong several ranks higher. There’s not much you can do about it, besides trying not to rely on healing. Play safely, and if you need to, play heroes that can heal themselves.

The game is just not played the same way in that rank. It stinks, but that’s just how it is.

I don’t play comp much, but i’ve been trying lately because i want to impress my kid. And it’s been frustrating as all hell.

I’d say Baptiste is a good choice for a self reliant Support in low ELOs.

Heck, pair that with a Lucio or Mercy and you can play pretty independently.

Might even be a good idea to go Bap+ Brig next patch

I was thining about it. Although, i’ve been doing pretty good with ana.

As someone who played in bronze from 2017-2019 (platinum 4 at the moment) you have to do every single thing on your own. Don’t expect the even smallest thing from your team like healing or doing damage or regrouping at all. If you’re a support player you have to 80% of the time try to kill enemies while only healing enough for your team to be on the edge of their death. Sometimes letting your teammates die are better than not doing enough damage but you have to kill the enemies by yourself. I play on PC so I can’t say anything about console.

However if you play on PC and can’t get out of bronze you 100% have a potato PC that without any doubt are holding you back. For reference, I played in bronze between 2017-2019 and played on a 30 FPS avg school laptop. When I later in 2019 tested out a 150 FPS avg system I went from bronze to gold without loosing a single game. That was over 20 games I didn’t lose. You have to be able to have at least some aim capability to get out of any lower rank and just like you can’t get out of a rank without having good enough gamesense you also have to have good enough aim. You have to be good enough on both aiming and game sense to get out of a rank and being really good at one of them and not on the other are not enough in my experience.

The exception are bronze and silver were you can get out of those ranks almost with only having good enough aim from having a good PC.
In OW1, 30% weapon accuracy in avg is normal for a Soldier in bronze. I know this because I have checked bronze players profiles back in the day, I also my self had about 30% weapon accuracy while playing on a 30 fps avg laptop. When I later played on the 150 fps avg system as I mentioned I had about 70-90% weapon accuracy per match in bronze. When I went to gold my weapon accuracy went down to 45% if you wonder.

The reason to why my weapon accuracy are so high in bronze compared to gold and higher are because bronze players walks in straight lines without strafing. I seem to have the same weapon accuracy in both gold and platinum so I guess that they are the ranks were most of players starts to strafe and be harder targets to shoot. To get to platinum for me I had to start to improve on my game sense.

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I totally agree. Especially support players in lower ranks thinks that they have to heal all the time but in bronze you have to do pretty much everyones job. As a suppport you have to play like a tank DPS and lastly like a healer. In my experience I had to do 80% of the damage my self and even in some scenarious flank as a support so that the enemy focus more damage on me instead of my team so that they don’t get killed.

Tank and DPS are much easier to play though in bronze because you only have to do damage. With support you have to direct the enemies damage on to your self. So you have to be creative on how to make the enemies shoot you instead lul. In silver and upwards you can pretty much start healing again while doing damage.

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Scenario. Lol Sorry had to do it. Nothing against you.

Also, I get this. But it seriously makes me not want to play support if I have to do all the dmg, and get screamed at for not healing

Bronze support? Just pick Moira and go full DPS. Pretend your team doesn’t exist.

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Moira are the easiest support to play in bronze even if you have the aim of a higher ranked player. I find it harder to play support in bronze than higher ranks with other heroes than Moira. The reason for this is because you have to play support similar to Wreckingball in bronze. In higher ranks than bronze it starts to become easier to play other supports too because you don’t need to play as much as an tank anymore. The good thing with the removal of 2CP are that it’s much easier to play support because you don’t have to do as much of the tanks job. In my experience playing Moira on attack A on Hanamura was that I had to push through the choke on my own by flanking on the enemy support or dps so the enemy starts doing damage on me and walks to the point making space for my team.

Pretending that your team doesn’t exist are the most accurate description of getting out of bronze. You pretty much have to do every single job on your team as a support in bronze.

Bronze players have huge crippling issues. Support and tank mostly game sense wise. DPS can climb with aim.

I’d imagine supports in Bronze freeze with fear and don’t know how to handle teamfights.

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Yes, which is why i switched to support while i play. My son, not so much. He prefers tank. But when we play together, he wipes teams