He just needs a full on rework with an alt fire or additionally ability cause currently he can not be viable for the sake of tank game balance
How would you engage then? Teleport is his engage tool, so without it you would be required to literally walk into the enemy team. He would become as useless as old Sombra was with her TL, constantly being out of the fight while waiting on cooldowns. It would be far easier for them to just make his TP instantaneous, than for them to mix it with another ability.
Situationally strong is not worth implementing when they can actively fix the issues with TP. Niche scenarios is not a good enough reason to implement a feature as a âfixâ to a hero. I would rarely ever see myself using that combo, since most of the time I can just juke out of a scenario with one of the abilities and keep the other in my back pocket just in case.
Why would this prevent him from needing a new ability? Even if they fixed his TP, he would still be under performing in comparison to the rest of the DPS, since people have essentially adapted to playing without TP for a long time now and it would only be a minute buff like wrecking balls recent 20 to 30 spread buff.
oh no guys, Reaper is running away, should I kill him or cap this point? I will go kill him, much more important
some characters are just like that
yeah, but thatâs like, giving Pharah Atom Bomb and then reducing her HP to 50 to compensate
or infinite fuel but half her damage and splash radius
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How you normally engage currently, teleporting from cover to cover first, then waiting on its cooldown a bit then flanking or going in with your team, by the time you are escaping you should have it back up again, plus at the very least, you could make the engagement stronger by Wraithing before, its only a plus.
Or how people usually engage with him wich is simply speeding him up or something.
I think escaping with it wouldnt be as situational as engaging with it, so i think it at least makes it somewhat worth looking into, plus, i think it makes his kit flow better wich should be a plus.
And him a much better backliner since he would actually be able to escape from a much bigger distance, if he has Shadow Step off cooldown.
Also⌠we are talking about OW balance team, they just buffed Cassâs roll damage reduction by 25%, its at least better than that.
Because hes already lacking on Shadow Step, why go to such extents as to give him a new ability without fixing his already subpar one?
What, when the situation calls for it you kill him.
No character should be too simple.
Its not nearly that strong the way you think it is, i dont think, again, since it needs both cooldowns.
Hes not even that strong into some tanks tbh (D.va/Orisa/ZaryaâŚetc) , the issue i think really, is that if hes strong, hes too easy to play currently, his design is too simple, making his kit take some finesse first is the way and i think this could do it.
In other news, Pharah still canât move during her ult, while Moira can Fade freely during hers and Echo canât even die while ulting.
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More time wasted stalling for your TP which, btw, is the loudest engagement tool known to man, so it really depends if your enemies have brains or not that decides if your going to live or die. Either way, your getting forced out before your TP is back up meaning you have to burn Wraith in 70% of situations (being a generous 70% when itâs realistically 80%).
If you Wraith TP in, you are not only signaling to the enemy team that you have no cooldowns, but you are quite literally entering a fight with 0 abilities to get you out of it. Thereâs no point in using Wraith and TP to engage and it still doesnât fix the issue of his TP being clunky.
Requiring another person to make a hero useful is not a solution and is in fact a sign of weakness. Clearly defining that he cannot engage unless he has someone to help him do so (or he can use his equally useless TP).
They could also just fix TP⌠and not make it a tangled mess.
It would not make him better. At most, it would be a different way to engage that is no less dangerous/time consuming than how he does it now. You sacrifice time over a potentially safe escape which is dependent on your team not dying while your waiting for your cooldowns. It is essentially a nothing burger.
Is this supposed to compliment the balance team? I donât understand what this statement is for. If it is though, theyâre the same incompetent team that didnât remove the most annoying part of Sombraâs kit in her rework that everyone complained about, theyâre the oneâs who ânerfedâ by 5%, and their the ones who thought Illariâs alt fire healing was the thing that needed nerfing out of everything in her kit soâŚ
What you suggested was not a fix. M2 smoke grenade would not only increase his survivability, but allow him to use his TP more effectively without needing to fix it. He could easily TP while within a smoke cloud as it provides visual cover and it wouldnât require burning his Wraith form to do so. It also adds more dimensions to his gameplay.
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Bastion and torb (even the rmb) is more effective that reaperâs shotguns and thats not including armorâs impact. He only does around 32 damage a shot against armor. They could either tone up the damage (which would have to be just enough to be consistent against squishes) and/or they can make him and his abilities faster/more effective. That second is the most likely of the two routes they will take (assuming they actually care about balance)
But at least no longer often a death sentence if you dare use it mid combat.
Yes, but youâre also engaging while fully invulnerable, wich is obviously incredibly strong when the situation calls for it, speciallys ince you wouldnt be able to tell if hes coming in invulnerable or not sometimes.
The point is that you would have a incredibly strong disengagement tool at least compared to now.
This could be a start, is my point, it could even be too strong.
Its a Jab, meaning they often include things that barely make much of a difference anywats, so why not include something that would at least be less situational than half of what they do?
I think it would be at least a good start in the right direction for it, having it flow in his kit alot better and making him a more interesting character.
Sometimes the right change aint a full on rework i think, sometimes somewhat baby steps is what the game really needs.
As for the Smoke Grenade, i think its a bit too basic for what they are going for the character, though, i guess they could always add some weird flavor i still think just adding nades is a bit boring, its basically what they have been doing with characters now is transforming them into a different flavor of Soldier/COD/CS characterâŚ
But i guess it still would fit somewhat, only, i think a better ShadowStep is more interesting.
Thats just simply not true anymore, while yes no character easily outdamages Sentry Bastion, Reaper comes darn close.
He does the same 70% of his DPS to armor as everyone else (but Torbâs ult) wich is 75 per shot 150 DPS wich is definetly better than Torbs at close range.
Reaperâs issue is not his DPS, its his utter lack of mobility and utility that makes him way too easy to avoid or outmaneuver.
You are right on the rote damage (I had it inversed), but torbs is 176 dps a shot (125 damage) with the rivet gun rmb . Use overload and go in and torb can easily out do reaperâs damage (you have to include the spread/range aspect as reaper would do more at 0m , but thatâs going to easily lead to you getting sent to spawn more times than not)
Torbjorn does ~260 DPS with his RMB (shotgun) on overload while Reaper does ~220, granted Torbâs got a better spread angle but thats only while on Overload, without it, he does ~180.
Torb is usually better because of his turret though, while Reaper is much harder to get value out of with Shadow Step, thats the big issue.
I think they should let him shoot in wraith form, most movies people run from wraiths or ghost, not overwatch your chasing him waiting for wraith form to end, it would be cool if you started seeing reaper doing the hunting rather then everyone else hunting reaper 
Now thats probbably a bit much, i feel like Wraith Form can be scary if the player uses it while still somewhat healthy or gets healed, that should be good enough, doing damage while invulnerable would definetly make him OP.
Iâd rather have shadow step have less of an obvious teleporter point. The sound effect for it is already loud as F, do we also need a glowing point basically telling every sniper âhey, this guy is going to be still for a secondâ
How much less obvious we talking though, cuz they would have to basically cut the visuals by like 75% for it to not be easily spottable, not to mention its quite loud, if its going to be easily spottable anyways, might as well make it stronger in some other way.
would rather him get a dash instead of stunning himself for 2 seconds
and some kinda right click with offensive oriented utility (hindering smokebombs, necrotic ammunition for a few seconds, firing both shotguns at the same time with a slow attached, etc)
shadow step in itâs current iteration is just kinda bad
But then hes just Gengu/Tracer but thicker, there are ways to make Shadow Step viable while on the slower side, i think this is a pretty on the safer side to go bout it.
They could instead also give it %dmg reduction or two charges for example, etc.
this is fine
shadow step is possibly the worst ability in the game
the game is too fast for a 2s self stun that announces to people in other games where the reaper is
before ram came out, I was kinda hoping that reaper got essentially a stronger version (and edgier) of ravenous vortex personally
oh well
Disagree, too much overlap there (unless you like em chonky wich i respect).
Very likely, Combat Roll is starting to overtake it i think.
Yep, but it doesnt really need to be fast, it could just be durable instead, or in this idea, if youâre able to bypass its vulnerable state it starts looking quite a bit better.
Coulda worked i guess⌠personally i kinda like the Nothing Personnel vibe of Shadow Step and it was never really viable so i think at least once, iâd like to see a Shadow Step viable Reaper.
theyâre the same abilities functionally, one just gets you killed because you stun yourself while using it for an added step so you can shadow step 3 feet in front of you BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THE TARGETING RETICLE STILL BEHAVES WEIRDLY
either way, there are plenty of copies of abilities with slight adjustments or just reskins
translocator is damage-less dash that cleanses
sojourn slide is apex legends slide with a cool jump at the end
kiri tp is guardian angel++
brig whip is just better lucio boop at range
no one says theyâre copies of each other with the exception of sombra being compared to tracer, but even then itâs just a meme and hyperbolic because theyâre both small hitbox women who flank and make zen players want to uninstall
giving reaper his own flavor of dash (not saying it should be just reskinned edgy dash) would dramatically improve the hero because he doesnât really have any way to self initiate by himself unless youâre playing in like silver, gold, and low plat where people donât react to reaper screaming to the heavens when he tps
you could easily make it do additional things on impact or to anyone he passes through like blinding them, hindering, applying discord (but make it raven graphics to match him), draining life from people he passes through, applying anti for a second, or slowing cooldown recovery
im not saying clone dash, make it shadowy, and throw it on reaper, thatâs boring
he just needs a burst mobility cooldown with vertical gain on a decent cooldown that accents his theme and kit since wraith is primarily used as a disengage
combat roll is slowly becoming stupidly strong in the worst way possible, but id argue itâs more useful, especially since he can tank the second tier of dva bomb and a direct riptire