Simply “you’re bad at the game” would be. “You don’t play at a high enough rank, therefore you don’t understand game design or Overwatch’s game design” is not. I guarantee I understand more of overwatch than you do, simply because I sit around to learn at least a little game design.
Streamers play the game. Pros play well. There’s no guarantee that this ability translate to understanding what would be good for the game. Especially since an awful lot of them are manchildren who unironically say things like “This ability stops my pew pew, so it should be deleted” without any regard for the health of the game.
Your line of thinking got us Overwatch 2. My line of thinking promotes free thought and simply asks “are we looking at this wrong?”. Who do you think we should listen to?
As an Ana main, she is. Tank is already the weakest role and she makes it that much worse. Her healing is too high, and her survivability is too high for the fact that she’s supposed to be easy to dive. Her utility combined with her healing and survivability pushes her past “strong” and into “bs”.
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Then how come you can’t climb?
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This guy loves flexing his “game design” skills. Don’t even bother.
Because clearly, the guy who is in Silver can make good decisions on the game. Clearly.
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For someone who is apparently so knowledgeable about the game his takes are so horrendous that they make the dev team look competent in comparison 
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Literally though. Bro said Widow is fine because she’s “skillful”.
So was 2016 Nurse, that’s not an argument lol
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I really do. I especially love watching two people forced to huddle up just to take me on.
Mhm. Tell me, did the devs have to reach Top 500 before they could start developing Overwatch? Did Valve have to become Team Fortress masters before making TF2? No, but I have to become some ultra GM level before I can understand Overwatch?
That’s completely disregarding the fact that I don’t claim to know everything about Overwatch. I only raised as simple “what if”. That doesn’t claim I know anything besides the fact that I just wanted to ask a question.
But no, feel free to use your same logic that ruined the game. I’m sure it will work eventually.
I never said that, you’re a liar. I have numerous posts where I agreed she needed a nerf due to the obvious indirect buff she got from removing a tank, so show me where I just said “she’s fine because she’s skillful”, or you’re just a liar. Either that, or you’re taking me out of context so much that you might as well be lying.
Oh, and to answer this question:
Because I literally have not made an attempt to climb in Overwatch, and my stats reflect that. I don’t have the stats of someone hitting Comp and failing; I have the stats of someone who does not try to play comp. That’s the same reason I haven’t called you out on your stats. Playing a game doesn’t mean you can make a game.
I know, I know: logical answer to a stupid question, I should stop. But consider the fact that my account is open because I want you to see it; I understand where my stats are.
Now, you answer this: the suggestions from you and people who hold your opinion has ruined overwatch. Why should we continue to listen to you? I don’t expect a response.
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We’re not forced to huddle up, we’re making fun of an undeserved ego.
Beginning to make a game and being knowledgeable enough to balance a game after it’s already made are two very different things. If you really were good at game design you would know this.
Yeah, pretty much. That’s the devs balance point, so if you don’t understand the game at that level you can’t balance the game.
OW is ruined? Ok buddy. Why don’t you quit then?
I remember the last conversation I had with you, dude. Yes you did. Don’t make me go through your posts to find it and make you look like even more of a clown.
“I can’t climb because I don’t want to, not because I’m bad”
This isn’t a mechanically intensive game. If you had the knowledge to balance the game well, you’d be GM.
EDIT:
What were you saying again? Your entire argument is that Widow is fine because she’s skillful. Saying “more counters need to be added” does not change that.
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then id be playing the game (im not)
no because ana is op and everyone who plays support knows this
tell that to the tank players, such as myself, who have quit the game
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kiriko exist meaning ana is still problem that they somehow can’t solve
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Ana has 100% anti heal, a heal boost, burst heal and burst damage on a 10 second cooldown.
To put in perspective how ridiculous this is, the only ability close to it, in terms of function, is Dez’s Rampage. That does a max of 100 damage and applies 100% anti heal.
So what’s justifying Ana’s 100% anti heal? Gracie and Carnage don’t apply anti heal.
Bionade is more of an Ult on cooldown than Resurrect has ever been, purely because Ana’s had this since she launched. Bionade needs to be 50% maximum on anti heal. The only way you can remove anti heal effectively is with Suzu, which has a 30% longer cooldown than Bionade, so Ana still gets more uptime of anti when against one of her biggest counters.
So don’t even try and say that this isn’t a problem.
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Whilst overall I agree. Hog and JQ really don’t.
Disagree with this bit.
I consider it not that annoying personally, because it has counterplay compared to things like Discord. Ana isn’t that bad when she’s meta, other supports are bigger problems when they’re meta.
If Ana is in a game, I don’t really mind, I just have to keep track of her cooldowns. If someone else like Zen is in the game, I’m not going to have the best time. If someone like LW is on my team, I think I’ll leave if it’s QP, if it’s comp I’m putting on a video or some music.
There are ways to buff her, like reducing nade’s radius by a bit, without really affecting her ability to control enemy tank tempo.
Most picked != the strongest
OW itself is proof that being strong or overpowered doesn’t mean much for pickrate, fun is the reason why a hero is picked
Ana is not OP, maybe strong, but on her own she struggles. She requires teamplay and at least somewhat of coordination.
Metal ranks are the ones who cry the most about Ana, but do you see ever follow up on sleep or nade?
It’s a rare occurrence
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No ana is overpowered shes easy to pick up and get crazy value out of and makes tanks lige a living hell all on her own along side making supports almost usless out sided kiriko
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Sure bro.
You act like you’re the god of Overwatch, you know everything better than people who play this game for a living.
You ignore facts like the Tank shortage and most Tank players tell the same story, Discord and Anti ruins their fun.
All that while you’re being like what? Silver? Gold? and sure you would totally climb Master+ if you tried, right man.
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She has the best healing in the game, can heal from all ranges, has good DPS, the most powerful debuffs on skill cooldowns (CC and anti) and a strong ult.
She is a problem and has been since 2018 or so. OW1 suffered from OP Ana in nearly all games for YEARS and now she is in OW2. I never have any fun playing her or against her, but her is kit is so crazy strong, that you sometimes feel forced to play her.
People say she is just “very fun to play” or “very impactful”. Of course if you play a hero that can change the cause of a fight with a mega CC or invalidate a role with another ability on cooldown, while making other ults extremely powerful with nano… of course it feels great.
Ana is currently too forgiving and easy to play for the kind of value she brings. Not to mention that she and Zen are the main reasons why tanks dont want to play the role and the main reason that GENJI cant get any meaningful changes.
But no… lets just ignore her again for years and see where we’re going. She just got a mythic for S6, so buckle up for granny for the next 2 months in every game…
I am so sick of this hero… I am a support player btw.
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Highest pick rate at all ranks most shows at top 500 been part of the meta for 7 years purple has a and always has been overpowerd image if somthing took away dps ability to do damage like just made them do 0 damage people would loose their minds. Ana is over tuned and is simple to get value with along side having a higher dps then a good couple of dps
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Playing pretend is just dumb. This has been considered for years and has been a problem for years. There is no changing it
Strong but not overpowered, that is a whole different topic
Why she was one of the favorite support for so long? Because she rewards skill, similar to Widow or Hanzo
Her skill ceiling is not as much skill capped by her kit like most other supports, hence why she is so popular in high ranks
Her performance in mid ranks, especially in OW1 was mediocre at best.
Offensive hits have been comparable low, same as sleepdart hits, with the addition lack of follow up and coordination you were at a total mercy of your team and that hasn’t really changed in OW2
BTW: The community was crying (in OW1) that McCree was OP despite having a whopping 47% WR. Just as reminder: The forum don’t care about actual strength of heroes and kit, they care about “someone took my lollipop away”
So if we look at Ana than we have to look at her from the perspective of a top tier player and that where mechanical skills and teamplay shines.
Many supports lack strong play making potential, especially from the OW1 era. Their design have been always lack luster, with few exception, and that makes comparison to other supports so bad
In these ranks there is the potential for counterplay and awareness present, which counters Ana and her playmaking potential.