What exactly is “Hide n Res”

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These are the 2 most popular definitions:

Hiding in a corner for a considerable amount of time and waiting for your team to die, preferably not being in LoS with your enemy.

or

Staying out of range for certain ultimates such as a Zarya Graviton Surge and then ressing after your team gets wiped.

I’d like to know which one is the correct one so I can correctly argue against the strategy.

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You hide, you pop out and use formally Q or currently E

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First one or second one :point_up:️

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When people say “Hide N Rez” they mean waiting for your team to die.

But what they fail to realize is that no good Mercy actually did that. And even if they did, it is DUMB to let yourself get killed when the enemy team is spamming a bunch of ultimates.

You have better luck hiding in cover and getting a revive if that did happen.

People are misinformed. Mercy used to be a troll-pick up until she got invulnerability. Even then you deserve to lose a game if you blow every ultimate when you don’t kill a Mercy.

It was WAY too easy as DVA to just use your ultimate as soon as she did hers, or for a McCree to high-noon and easily counter it.

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Yeah, I’m shocked as well as how so many people still think it was a viable strategy and then back that up with personal experience…

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In the few times I saw other Mercy’s hide & rez. I remember a D.va bomb or death blossom instantly wrecking her and her team :man_shrugging:

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I never saw it. I think it was more of an SR exploit than a strat. Organized teams would counter it after it popped and wreck your team.

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Both.
The first is the common accepted one, but I consider both “hide n res” as the second is implies you take a breif period of “hiding” behind something before swooping in for res.

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And anyone who tries to “debunk” it as a myth only backs that up with personal experience as well. So who is right, and who is wrong?

More importantly, who cares? Mass rez is long gone.

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Its probably a bit of exaggeration on both sides.
Memory’s change afterall.
We will change our memory to fit whatever narrative we want.

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So basically the first one.

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The second one doesn’t talk about hiding behind anything. It’s literally just keeping out of range for certain ultimates.

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If you activity disengage from the fight, stop healing/boosting while a ultimate wipes the team, then you swoop in.
That’s kinda the same thing regardless of if you went behind a wall or not. You still abandon your team.

What do consider Quest’s reddit post to be?

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Well the example I gave, you can still heal your allies and what not because the beam range is longer than the gravs radius.

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You know, I can make excuses for people who claim the first one, that could be annoying

But the second one ? What do ya’ll expect ? For people to stand still, close their eyes and welcome the sweet embrace of death ?

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Then no if you are still participating in the fight.
As soon as you stop, that’s an issue.
But lets be real, thats not what happened most the time and is not what was encouraged by the design of the ability.

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Also, Quest’s link is just of some Mercy main claiming the “Hide n Res” strategy was the way to play Mercy when they literally said somewhere underneath the video that the enemy team uses all their ultimates to wipe, then go for the big res… Any competent team can walk through a 1v1 without expending ultimates unless you need to counter an ultimate with an ultimate. With this mind, the strategy was basically garbage as he proves that th e only way for it to work is for you to be up against bad teammates.

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Its more so the concept of an ability that encourages you to disengage from the fight than anything else.
No other hero has that.

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Reaper, McCree, Tracer… the list goes on. Honestly thing it’s a double standard. Tracer’s ultimate encourages players to hide behind enemy teams then ult but when Mercy’s ult partially encourages hiding (and or just playing defensively) it suddenly needs to get reworked…

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I dont like xQc but he puts it better in:


I’ve added the timestamp to the URL, but its 18:05
Its defiantly not a double standard, they are totally different.
Its more to do with Mercy with valk but the point still stands with Mass Res. It takes significantly “fewer”/“less skill” than DPS ultimates.
(I am not a DPS main!)

Also keep in mind…opinions.
No one is wrong here.