What do you guys think of Freja after the nerfs?

In my opinion, she is still completely broken. Her kit just doesn’t fit the game. She needs a rework. The character, and voice actor isn’t bad. Just her utility does NOT fit overwatch. It never will. Her projectiles are to fast for a hero with such mobility.

I know people are gonna say “You just can’t deal with her” and that just isn’t true. I feel like those people just haven’t played against a player her is really good with her. I personally do not play DPS. Like never. I play support, and sometimes backfill tank, since I’m a 6v6 player. I can play Freja, and do effective. She is so easy, since she lacks complex utility, and has absurd amounts of damage. Even if you don’t get the kill, she has so much control over the battlefield, making it extremely easy to move enemies out of position. Obviously allowing your team to push further, and take more space.

Freja is miserable. She has 0 direct counter play. Sombra is the closest thing, and that’s not even a direct counter. The only way Freja would be manageable is that removing her dash reload. Instead making it cancel the reload instead. Then she looses any form of threat. You could cut the projectile speed considerably, but would that make sense for a crossbow? It would be weird having slow moving projectiles come from such a weapon. This is why we need a rework. You will never make that hero balanced. Even if you made her charge bolts do like 90 damage, that hero will still be bad, because she would still be able to have to much control over the battlefield.
Widow has a lot of control over the individual lanes, but she has much lower mobility, and can’t move when dealing her damage shot. Freja can zip around, and deal tons of damage. Which is just insanity. Why would you make a hero that has high mobility, damage, and the same projectile speed as Hanzo who only has a double jump? This actually blows my mind how this past QA.

It is by far the worst Hero I have ever seen be added to the game, and I have played since 2018. Even broken hero’s previously, have been vastly improved with a little bit of balancing. The problem with Freja, is that she can’t be balanced. She is broken from the ground up.

What do you all think?

Shes fine, the damage from bolts are delayed, so you have a time to prevent damage by any ways, its not like widow or hanzo oneshot, and her spams are nothing, compare to junk or pharah

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easy to take out as a hitscan, if you can aim. One of the easiest heroes to track.

They removed her best perk and she’s rocking a 45% win rate…

I find myself picking Genji more than her to attack high ground maps now cause he has better perks, only use Freja for sniper maps now

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I don’t think she’s bad or that great. Why play her when there is Sojourn? Tracer wrecks her.

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Just yet another OW2 hero that lives or dies by sheer numbers if they want to see playtime.

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The difference with Hanzo and Widow, is that they don’t have high mobility. So they can hold down position, but can’t easily relocate to another one. Freja can hold down the same site lines as a Hanzo or Widow, and they quickly move to a new position. Hanzo, and Widow are also better at longer ranges. Freja is good at all ranges. She is just as threatening at long range, as she is at close range. Making her kit to versatile. There is literally nothing she can’t do. She can be in the air, on the ground, in your face, and miles away. This makes no sense at all.

Maybe in your lobbies. Freja has way stronger utility then Sojourn. The moment you bait out Sojourns dash, then she has no mobility so Freja can chase her down, and double bolt.

Because she is basically permanently banned in high lobbies where people can aim. Then in lower lobbies, people don’t hit her shots, which is why she looses.

Freja is banned more then Sombra is Masters+ on PC. While on console she isn’t banned anywhere near as frequently, since you need more snappy aim.

This just isn’t true. Good Freja players who are tracking cooldowns, will not be still enough to get a clear shot. They will pop up, fire a couple charge bolts, and then evade. Or if they spot a hitscan, they will immediately retreat, and take another angle. The closest thing to dealing with Freja, is Sombra. What do you know. Also gets banned a ton.

I don’t play any tanks that can really deal with a flier in a satisfying way, so I imagine I’ll never like Freja (or Pharah) for that reason alone.

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I mean Pharah really isn’t that annoying, even if you run a lower range tank that can’t deal with her personally. Hopefully your DPS understand how to deal with her. Hitscans can make Pharah’s life really difficult. Like Ashe dominates Pharah.
Even with Diva you can chase down Pharah, whilst holding up your defence matrix.

You can’t really do the same with Freja. With Ashe, she can dash evasively, and cancel mid dash. This makes it so much harder to predict where to shoot. Is she gonna full dash, or half dash? Plus Freja can move round the map extremely fast, and get to several different vantage points with her aerial mobility. Allowing her to pop up anywhere, fire a couple shots, and zip out straight away.
There is really no effective way in dealing with her. The fact she is banned more then Sombra in Masters+ on PC, clearly reinforces the fact that I am not wrong. Clearly good players understand how annoying, and broken Freja is with someone who can maximise her potential.

Emphasis mine. Yeah, hopefully the Junkrat or the Genji swaps to hitscan and hopefully they can suppress her when they do, but whatever the case, it’s a drag.

And, like you say, Freja is even more annoying due to pretty much having air blinks. So regardless of how effective Freja is or isn’t, I will stick her on my ban list if I’m not banning Widow. I do not like playing into Freja at all.

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Ew, ugh, ew… Seriously? No wonder nobody plays her anymore. That would explain it. I forget she is in the game sometimes.

Freja is just a better Junkrat. Good on maps where spam can be a problem for enemies. I don’t know why Freja’s winrate is low, but maybe people are forcing her into the open maps or try to duel hitscans… If you stay back and spam, you provide pure value and never die. If you are defending on map like Rialto, there is nothing better than Freja to keep attackers at bay.

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Why is Freja after Winston, Mei, etc?

What if the Junkrat is killing the Pharah several times throughout the match? Will you still blame them then?

Hold on. I never said that I blamed my Junkrat for anything. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

You said hopefully they swap. What if they didn’t?

Like I said earlier: if they don’t swap then it’s a drag to tank into. My own options to directly deal with fliers as a tank are pretty limited.

I said absolutely nothing about blaming anybody.

Dva isn’t bad to deal with a Pharah.

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I don’t play D.Va but even if I did, I wouldn’t like being obliged to swap to D.Va to deal with fliers specifically any more than projectile DPS like to swap to hitscans to deal with fliers.

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I will always hate this hero. The noise her take aim bolts make are a trigger noise for my tism. Like sombra hack, but since she rapid fires them it so often its :face_vomiting:

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I don’t think that I will ever like Freja because she’s annoying to play against. She still does a lot of damage. She’s still in the air or at ranges you can’t interact with her. I want her deleted.

Statistically speaking she isn’t overpowered. But how she feels to play against is awful. And it will always be awful.

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