So here’s some gameplay. It’s the last push.
Action start around 0:45 . Before that, i’m waiting for my teammates to come back.
We lost and I wanted to know if there was something i could have done better to win that game.
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I’m not really good enough to say “I HAVE THE ANSWER,” but for sure, both your healers went down about the same time, near 1:41. That was the moment you lost your chance to take this CP, with the little time you had left.
If there’d been more time, I would have suggested retreating and saving that ult for the next push. But you were out of time. Your team wasn’t going to make it back. So you tried to make some magic happen with your last ult, and you got 3, but really, that match was over when your healers went down.
Do as much as you can to protect your healers. Your whole team should be thinking about this. Where was your off-tank? You were doing a decent job of shooting their healers, but their Mercy was still able to rez their Moira, about 10 seconds before your healers died. That’s not ALL your fault, but as McCree, you were probably the best equipped to take out that Mercy, so target her first when you see her near the end of a match like that. Take her rez off the table. If you had killed her before she rezzed Moira, your team probably would have won. And though you were otherwise wreaking havoc on their healers, their team was having better luck. So keep an eye on your healers if your team can’t (or won’t) protect them. I’m not sure that should have been your duty as McCree, but if no one else is doing it, then it BECOMES your duty.
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Just looking from the start. It looks like you were staggered. That’s a really big disadvantage to your team. I can’t say what happened before, Because I can’t see it, but try to disengage a fight if you are down numbers - Especially if you are attacking 2cp.
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Here’s the video without the timestamp:
I’ve noticed everyone was dead and waited for everyone to come back from spawn.
It’s low bronze (~840SR). So we can’t really expect a push with everyone…
Alright, thanks for the very detailed post.
The ult at the beginning would be a death sentence at higher SR, but it worked, so not going to rag on that too much.
1:02 you ignored a Hanzo that was in the corner. He climbed the wall, which allowed Mercy to fly to him. From then until 1:20, when the other team’s respawns came back out, Mercy was allowed to contest the point for free with valk, meaning no ticks for your team even with nearly 15 seconds of point control.
1:28 you missed some crucial shots that would’ve meant the other team had 0 healing, which could’ve allowed your team to win the round. That single mistake meant that instead of 0 healers, they had 2 healers.
1:40 you could’ve started walking forward to camp the health pack or get healing from a teammate so that you could recontest. You recontest later with half health, which means a jump/melee from Winston nearly kills you by itself (given, he didn’t do that anyway, but he could’ve and would’ve at higher SR), leaving you no room to clutch.
Realistically, all these are somewhat nitpicky, but if we’re talking about what more you can do, there are definitely some thing you could’ve done. Clearly your team could’ve done more, but this looked winnable to me. If you had picked the mercy while she was rezzing, that might’ve been the end of it.
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You asked wrong question. You are giving us already bad situation where you have lost two points. You should be asking yourself and us why you did loose both points before with 3 minute on top of that.
What do you expect from us? Yes you played exceptionaly good in attack second point, i can congratulation to you on that. You were awesome. But match is not only two minutes of your choosing.
Others here are really trying to find small detaily with mistakes which is nonsense in my opinion, you played more than good enough for your rank.
Only thing i would say is that dont step from point, if i am not mistaken every player contesting point is adding respawn time for enemy team.
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I think you did absolutely marvelous job there.
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Now that you said this. Some people cannot do that in platinum and gold. You were pretty much carrying and that is why you lost. You cannot be alone dude trying to do the right thing.
Maybe I should say that question here is not “What could I have done better?” but instead “What could my team have done better?”. In Overwatch, until something changes, carrying is only possible if other team is that bad.
If players want carrying, go play Dota 2 or CS:GO.
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Yeah exactly, he was and i think he posted that clip because he carried and was salty waiting for some people to scratch their heads trying to tell him small non important mistakes he did.
But i am curious what happened before that, why has enemy team 3 minutes and both points captured. He could have make mistakes there. I dont see a point in commenting good play in miserable situation when we could comment major mistakes he did in defense.
Its 850 sr lol, he played like god there.
So to his original question:
Show us whole match so we can tell you. 2 minute clip isnt enough to tell you why you lost the match.
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Honestly, besides the nitpicking and other things. The enemy winston was alive too long, causing AE dmg to healers and making it a fight of attrition. You were focused on getting their healers, which is often a good thing, but with tracer/winston/zarya as the remaining sources of dmg, it didn’t seem like enough to burst the winston down.
If the winston died earlier then your healers would have lived longer, and then you could have popped off on the rest like you did.
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Exactly this. It’s a team game. The carry potential has dwindled significantly from overwatch since two two two makings teams organized.
Good tanks and supports can straight neutralize the carry potential of a dps. Just try to communicate and do what you can to improve. Every loss will not be your fault and sometimes you can carry your butt off and lose. It happens.
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You did amazingly well, bro! Not even a gold or plat could’ve done more. The problem is that overwatch is a team based game. If you’re the only one trying hard, and the other 5 just running around like mindless bots you’ll lose.
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Your flanks are long but since your team is slow it’s alright. So instead of going behind them you could have ulted from that platform it’s just that little bit safer.
You also went for Moira over Mercy. Can’t say what’s smarter in your elo but Mercy can rez and has better mobility so she would have been my go to with a flashbang.
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Well yeah, you are right as well. Best is to take overview of the whole match so that we can know what and where went wrong. I mean, this is was good gameplay but yeah, you are not going to win just because of that.
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If the Zarya wasn’t bubbling the healers I’d prolly switch off mccree to Mei or something.
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I can watch my own replay too, you know. I know what i could have done better during the first round.
I wanted to know if there was anything i could have done better to win that fight. Turn out, there was. And I’m glad I posted the gameplay and now I know what i could have done better.
I don’t play Mei… I only play Hanzo, Ashe and Mccree.
So you only need tips for situations where you’re already popping off? K.
If you really wanted help, you would post more than your best moment. Your post seems very disingenuous.
Killed the mercy. She almost singlehandedly turned that around and you basically ignored her (not intentionally)
I popped off but i lost.
So I obviously didn’t do things right.
That’s how you get the more useful vod, you think you did good but you lost.
There’s part of your problem. You’re a dps player. You have the biggest toolbox in the game. Learn a few different kinds of heroes and not just snipers and mccree.
“What could I have done better”
be more versatile on the role that’s built to be diverse.