What are we thinking about the new patch?

Honestly a few interesting changes

Dva getting nerfed was pretty expected, it’s kinda good that her knock back resistance and health was reduced by quite a lot, it just seemed impractical to be playing against a 750hp behemoth that can delete you before you could react

The orisa and roadhog buffs I feel are going to add up over time, but for now kinda inconsequential

Not sure if I should be excited about the sigma changes, he looks like he can be more brawly now with the higher explosion damage and no longer damaging himself

The bastion changes look like they would be pretty strong but we shall see

Cassidy changes finally make flash bang not useless or garbage

Hanzo’s changes look like a buff, but I guess the slower arrow draw speed is a trade off I guess

Don’t really care about the support changes except the zen discord buff

Dva, needed adjustment. I think the armor in general would have been fine for right now.

Orisa I am fine with these changes, but it is weird that they buff her along with Sigma changes.

I have to test out Cassidy, as it allows him to burst and kill flankers, but with a cost of not restricting the movement too much, so I guess this is one you have to play around with.

Bastion is a good change.

Hanzo- feels bad, but at least he can now one-shot 225hp heroes.

All the support changes are interesting, but I think the Discord changes are going to cause issues later on in the season.

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Dva is surprisingly more squishy now than I thought after playing a few games and that’s honestly ok since she keeps her damage. If they nerfed both she’d be a throw pick so that’s good.

Playing into Zarya is a lot harder now though so the buffs against beams they mentioned needs to come soon.

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Naaa that sht can wait, learn how to use an actual killable tank now :joy:

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*250 health heroes after patch

Just a small mistake.
(I mean he can one-shot 225 hp of course)

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I am glad they fixed the Dva ICBM speed strat

I’m gonna pick up zen once again. :smiling_imp:

And they should’ve given hanzo the Sylvanas skin and are cowards for not doing so

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Ya know…

Not a bad patch at all IMO. At least from what I’m reading. It seems pretty reasonable. I will always groan at Orisa and Roadhog buffs but I suppose they may have needed it.

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I meant to say 250, but yes!

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Yeah I just need to learn :joy:

Such great advice

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i feel those changes will eventually add up like how dva became a sleeper pick until now, i dont think removing self inflicted damage on sigma is strong on its own, but it does encourage sigma to be more brawly since it has shifted power from direct hits to explosion damage whilst making him slightly stronger against dive bc he doesnt need to fear dying to himself

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I was expecting a DVA dps related nerf but they did it the other way. Wonder how it would change things. Looking forward to it.

Meanwhile I kinda like the Zen slight buff. Means I can OHK easier now.

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Nerfing her total durability is a dps nerf overtime.
If they did both it would’ve tanked her viability so at least they didn’t go too far

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the best patches are the patches where they undo previous patches. hooray for hanzo

however when i put it like that i really wonder why i still play this game looool, there really havent been any patches in the last couple years that on their own merits made the game better than it was

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So funny to me how devs only remembered venture existed to nerf the character despite absolutely no one complaining lol.

Fair enough.

Hope my Zen can survive longer now with the dps buff :slight_smile:

The discord orb buff is pretty noticeable.

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It’s not about surving, it’s about taking out as many as you can before you go down.

This is a huge buff

Were you can take down targets without discord which is vital in all squishy match-ups since they can lose discord fast.

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That double Cassidy buff is awesome lol

Flashbang being a big AoE with the same damage as old hindernade is nuts

I fully expect them to revert it at least partially to like 60 damage in season 13. Throwing it around a Genji deflect cos they think they’re safe is peak

It does near double the damage and armor got nerfed, so flash + fan/roll/fan is gonna be the new meta against Winston’s and Balls

Also high noon cost reduction, not sure this was necessary but I ain’t complaining

Dva getting nerfed alone wouldve been a huge Cass buff on its own lol

Hanzo changes are ok, would’ve preferred the gut storm arrow and kept his normal firerate. Orisa and Hog microbuffs zzz. Sigma buff is whatever, not a fan of shifting his power away from direct hits or removing damage reduction’s ability to mitigate his ult partially. Not sure how that interacts with Nano but nano’ing a fluxed target is going to be a lot less viable strat now. Venture nerfs make NO sense. Dva nerfs are fine, would’ve preferred they got rid of some of her burst damage and reworked armor again but that’s too ambitious. For the love of god rework sniper maps already

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This is kinda what I was hoping for so it’s good to see some validation even tho it’s early.

I think this is a good direction for her since it keeps some of her carry potential and differentiates her from some the other tanks. You can delete people and make plays but you just have to be smarter about it. At least that’s the theory

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