It would help me since I realized I do have a hard time figuring it out. I feel really stupid for it but maybe some advice? I’m not sure how to truly tell
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It depends a lot on the cheat as well as the skill of the player.
For example if the player has the game sense and positioning of a potato but lands crazy shots all the time… then it’s a pretty good indicator of an aimbot.
For wall hacks, bad players will make it pretty obvious cause they’ll usually look at people through walls.
Good players tend to be good at hiding both, so someone who is already masters/GM who is just trying to get a small advantage can be really hard to identify.
Sometimes you simply wont be able to tell for sure, and it comes down to experience and instinct. You’ll get better at finding them over time.
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Headshot kill when they aren’t a Widow or a Hanzo (if you have full HP), many headshots in a small amount of time, except when Cassidy Ults (4 or 5 consecutive, even proplayers are unable to do this miraculous gameplay), look the deathcam, the player had you in his aim or he was looking to the floor or to the wall? If they are immortal when they don’t have a sup near by or an Zeny orb. I’m probably forgetting something but I usually notice these ones…With time you be able to notice it bud, it’s hard to explain now, but when you get used to OW you probably gonna notice the cheaters and stuff
If they manage to kill me they are cheating.
If they manage to get killed by me they are noobs.
^- The forums in a nutshell.
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Boils down to this.
Even with a lot of experience you can’t know. In OW1, a 4400 widow can make a new account and stroll their way up to that rank and some people can be genuinely fooled into suspecting them as a cheater, as if they were on their main they might not be as they’d be at least known by other people in that relatively small pool of players.
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I would watch back your games and spectate them. There are some tells esp with aimbots and full on wall hacks
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are they playing genji bellow diamond, and kerb stomping your team? - yes? = cheater
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are they playing tracer bellow diamond and kerb stomping your team - yes? = cheater
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are they playing widow bellow diamond and kerb stomping your team - yes? = cheater
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are they playing hanzo bellow diamond and kerb stomping your team - yes? = cheater
With modern hacks, you aren’t going to be able to tell with a short clip unless they’re being extremely careless. But if you are able to spend some time watching them and identifying patterns:
Aimbots – Usually the most suspicious thing is when their extremely good aim is matched by extremely poor positioning and awareness. It’s one thing for a player who’s got FPS experience to have good mechanics but make a lot of dumb mistakes when it comes to utilizing their own toolkit or countering other heroes… but things like using cover and being alert to your surroundings is also fairly universal, and should have been learned in whatever FPS they were playing.
Toggling – This is long-term pattern spotting. These players swap between having bad aim and having very good aim, often at the most convenient possible times for themselves. Most toggles are hotkey activated now, so you may see that some players just conveniently happen to hit the shots that they need to hit in order to, say, defend themselves or secure an important kill, only to go right back to missing everything when the circumstances are less dire.
Wallhacks – They are responding to things they could not possibly have seen or heard. Keep in mind Overwatch has really good audio queues, and players with good gamesense could very well be making educated guesses based on what you were doing when they last saw you.
But then you have to figure for players who are genuinely very good at the game and are hacking. In that case it can be very hard to tell.
I’m just saying, there is a reason that modern cheat detection is based on software detection rather than any effort to identify ‘cheating’ gameplay.
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I recently had a game where a player was repeatedly putting the link to a cheat site in the chat, so I guess that’s one way
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I’d bet money it was probably ransomware lol
I found this Widowmaker quite suspicous:
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I never call hacks but idk, I did kill her a couple times. Which made me even more suspicious, honestly.
This is low gold nobody has accuracy like that.
One good reliable way a t500 told me about was play back your games and watch the initial spawn times. A lot of cheaters spend that initial 30 seconds setting up their adjustments and not moving like normal folks do. They will alao do this mid match if they start without cheats enabled or feel the need to change settings.
It’s virtually impossible to tell because there are so many cheats that don’t do anything blatant - but that’s hardly surprising is it, blatant cheats get the Darwin treatment.
So many cheats involve wallhacks etc. that really it’s down to the individual cheater. Part of the trouble is that now wallhackers can say it was a ping that led them to you.
One of the biggest tells is their overconfident maneuvers (knowing that because they cheat they can do some ridiculous positioning or enter into a dangerous or otherwise implausible position solo) ie: they know they’re at a massive advantage. You can often see this in game, but in replays it’s usually much more blatant.
Took the liberty of analysing the match from the Widow’s first person perspective.
Certainly the speed of play and aim do look suspicious at first, but if you put on the fine grained time controls you can see all the over-steer and the impact of mouse-presses on the cursor (typically moves up on a click due to the downward force and friction dragging the mouse) and a “U” shaped curve due to the movement of the wrist and fixed length of the arm. Either it’s an aimbot that’s incredibly good at mimicking this or it’s legit.
There’s also an (in relative terms) unnecessarily long delay between widow’s power hitting 100% and the shot being taken, that also includes further seemingly manual aiming.
Not to mention that the widow also exhibits other signs of actual skill such as accurate grapples into the air and excellent tactical positioning and hiding themselves.
I hate cheaters as much as the next guy, but this widow seems to have skill over aimbot. That doesn’t rule out a plethora of other cheats, but if they’re using an aimbot it’s perfect.
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Always amazes me that few if any will entertain this despite the entire team getting stomped by a single bronze.
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I just wasn’t sure since I know how sophisticated they are these days and it does seem to just miss just enough to not arouse suspicion, but I do question how someone with this level of aim is in a low gold lobby. I suppose it could be someone smurfing, but they are wearing the Kerrigan Widowmaker skin which was limited edition from a few years ago.
Random point, but some people do have bad game-sense/positioning and good aim. FPS aim is different from game to game, sure, but still a pretty transferable skill. I know I play with a group who are all pretty crazy into shooters, some are very high ranked player sin other games, and all of them popped off with respect to hitting shots even in their very first game of Overwatch. At the same time they were making really bad decisions and had awful positioning.
usually the game will detect them without your help
Also can’t discount the player who turns off game audio and plays music. Zero awareness but can 1 tap heads.
Happened enough in counter strike.
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She is very accurate for low gold but her positioning is rather bad, The kiriko is much more accurate with her shots. I watched the entire game viewing her at 0.25 speed (some skipping due to spawn and what not). She’s mid plat/low diamond accuracy (can say that as I had grinded to diamond from gold many seasons ago- stopped playing comp well before goats meta- and have played against and with friends who were masters hitscan over the years since). She misses alot of shots or she bodyshots once and zarya/kiriko actually do the overall damage to the target so kills are alright. The initial kill set was a mix of luck and no pressure on her. The only thing that could look suspicious is the kill on you at 7:26ish BUT at 0.25x speed you can see the widow notice you peeking from the corner before waiting for you to reappear at the same spot. The tank not pressuring her while her tank pressured you and the other dps throughout both rounds made a massive difference with regards to being able to outplay her though
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