You can absolutely position against Sombra. You just have to stand near walls/corners that allow you to duck around either side for protection and pretend she’s always watching you.
Doors are particularly great for this, near a support or health pack is a bonus.
It’s really not that difficult to position well, it just takes a small amount of brain power.
Ok and how does one position better when being spawn camped??
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Or shall we just cut the nonsense and accept sombra doesnt have to care about positioning as a hero because she gets to skip that skill requirement
She was never awful, they buffed sombra and nerfed Juno’s hp which is what made her so bad on release. The sombra nerf should help a little bit now tho.
No cus juno in the playtest was also awful before sombras buff
Only reason people said she was balanced is because she was new, bad and an easy target to kill. That’s their definition of balanced.
She will never compete vs the likes of ana kiri bap lucio etc with her poor design. She doesnt actually do anything better than other supports so there is no reason to pick her. Maybe give her actually decent mobility and she’d have something unique to offer. Instead we are left with a clunky goofy mess
Do you think Sombra’s design is good for the game?
The wrong change though - the problem tanks including DVa and Winton all share one thing - too much armour.
My guy if you struggled to survive as Juno during the play test, I am sorry to say, that is a skill issue.
Her mobility is really good, and that has been buffed.
when I played in the playtest nobody could touch me I consistently had no more than 4 deaths in a round.
Supports are too babied now with all of them having ways to self heal and most of them having free escapes (except my boy zen but even he has his kick now)
Ashe has been absolutely dominating.
I never see either and I play both of those heroes lmao
I see her in the vast majority of my games this season.
It’s not a compensation nerf and it’s not intended to be a buff; people complained about how she felt to play with the fire rate so they buffed it and nerfed damage and healing to keep HPS and DPS roughly the same as before.
Imo, i liked the fire rate we already had so this is annoying for me, but in reality it doesn’t change anything for her whatsoever.
She is.
Definitely things that need looking at, but don’t expect anything so drastic in a hotfix patch.
I didnt say i struggled to survive
Reading comprehension seems to be a challenge for you it seems
In the playtest juno was just a bad hero. She didnt provide anything of value and the only reason people were buzzing about her was because she was new.
If you actually took a step back and assessed her against every other support in the roster it was clear she then, as she still is now, doesnt provide anything of value to a team they cant get elsewhere but better.
Speed worse than lucio
Dmg worse than most supports
Healing worse than most supports
Mobility worse than most supports
Utility worse than most supports
Carry potential worse than most supports
Ult worse than most supports
Skill ceiling worse than most supports
She is the epitome of jack of all trades*, master of none
smallprint: *if jack was bad at everything
How many times does it have to be said that sombra isn’t invisible when hacking heroes? I guess she must be if she’s behind you? Out of sight, out of mind.
Well … yeah. Even though I like the changes, this is the Overwatch style
I agree that spawn camping is a worse issue now than pre-rework. That’s part of why I want her reverted.
But she absolutely does have to be conscious of her positioning, she’s not the free win button you seem to think.
There are options to deal with spawn camping.
For dps, Mei has two abilities that can negate Sombra, Tracer can easily outmaneuver her, Venture can ignore her, if you have good aim Cass and Soldier are good options, and you can always swap Sombra as well.
For support it’s definitely a bit more difficult, but Brig is good as always, Illari is good you just need to put down pylon in advance, Moira is a great choice, Lucio is great rn because he has dps level damage.
Again, I’m not happy with where she is at either, but the absolutely are options to deal with her. You just have to be thoughtful.
Absolutely not. She was never meant to be a stealth assassin, she was meant to be a tactical, low damage, utility focused dps.
She should absolutely be reverted to her previous version, and get this virus crap out of here. It’s boring to use and to play against.
I think your forgetting the patch notes where made by blizzard
How is an armor fix drastic. Like are we really at the point where dropping a few points of armor off of DVA is like some hard thing. Instead we live in this crazy world of Overwatch where expecting the devs to try taking a bit of armor off of the most busted tank is something drastic. Like it’s too much for their brains to handle or something.
They’re talking about how armour function as a whole, not just DVa’s armour. Because trust me, it isn’t only DVa’s armour that is too strong.
Have you seen the competence of the balance direction of the last two years? Asking for their next patch to not be terrible is too much to ask. 
Its really impressive how much people have been gaslit into thinking that Ashe isnt a constant strong pick in just about every meta.
Even so like is it that hard to see that armor is negating a bit too much? Like can we not just tune the damage reduction down a bit? I still don’t see how that’s “drastic”. It’s a number
It’s something that doesn’t just affect one hero; it’s an entire ‘game feel’ thing.
They often refuse to make meaningful changes at the most appropriate times unless it’s a terrible one, so idk why you’d think they would consider this in a hotfix.
Like, I’m not saying it’s not possible, but this is team 4.5. I expect less than the bare minimum and still consistently get disappointed.
Because there is no real middle point between ‘‘tank falls over at a Soldier 76 body shooting them’’ and ‘‘they can tank a whole team’’.
No single tank is supposed to do either.
you ever played against an above plat tracer otp? im guessing not judging by this post, tracer doesnt need invis to delete you, and theres nothing you can do about it