well ppl throw to smurf, wouldn’t you agree? who’s to say that they can’t remember my name?
it just seems like an utter waste of time when you could be enjoying this game or doing something more useful or fun or both
but ok
do you think ppl ever throw in Overwatch?
odd question - but - sure, it absolutely happens
I wish I could myself all the time when someone leaves during a comp match and now I am stuck playing an unenjoyable game that I know I cannot win:-)
same thing if my team is matched against a team that just rolls through us like we werent even there. 2 mins in or less, this becomes pretty obvious
may I ask why you asked?
“Soft throwing” sounds like a really paranoid term by salty people trying to find any reason why they lost.
I’m afraid of ppl trolling me in LFG, not random queue.
soft throwing is throwing without making it look like you’re intentionally throwing so your team won’t report you OR if you do get reported then when blizzard reviews your gameplay they can’t ban you bc you’re playing within the rules (ie. not throwing yourself off a cliff over and over which is hard throwing)
the point of a soft throw is doing it so you won’t get banned for throwing
some players do this to intentionally get to bronze and f around in that rank
others do this to get back at their teammates (for instance if their teammates were being toxic to them, if they get someone they don’t like on a team, etc)
just seems so bizarre, but ok
I’ve never had an entire team of toxic players - when it happens, its one or two, so I cant see throwing (soft or otherwise) a match to get back at these 1 or 2 when the other 3 or 4 are innocent/blameless
but thats me {{shrug}}
Ok. With the Creator and 4v1 at this point. I guess I miss understood the term. My apologies.
I could definitely see people getting passed with you and soft throwing mid game to throw without getting caught. But I don’t see anyone purposely playing with you for even more games just to throw. One is getting mad while in a game you can’t leave. The other is going insanely out of their way to cause harm.
So unless you ran over their dog, I wouldn’t worry about lfg.
I’m even more discouraged on playing this game in general. Like, for some reason, matchmaker decided to pit some throwers (hard and soft) on the enemy team continuously, and on my way to mid-Masters, I felt boosted unintentionally. Will I be able to survive in mid to high Masters and even some GM’s if I’m in games where no one feels like throwing at all, no matter the situation? I doubt it. Wanna know why? I’m not experienced enough in a skill tier to handle them. I can watch vids, but I’m always a believer of experience being the best teacher.
i’m not worried about an entire team doing it, i’m just worried about 1 person on my team soft throwing
right, but I am saying that the person doing it to get back at 1-2 players on their team is also hurting the other 3-4 blameless players
sux
Those who I’ve noticed generally play Genji and or Tracer. They refuse to switch, even when they are clearly getting murdered. The entire team please them to switch, they don’t. Many times they tend to be newer accounts lol
Then they go hanzo/mei/torb and proceed to feed and block our team ults and etc, then play normally till we get close to winning, then they decide to do nothing.
It can be very obvious to tell by watching a player trying to not win the game by not getting on the point or assisting the team fight as much.
You do have to be careful, because some may just be having a bad day and or they simply don’t belong at their rank.
I wish avoiding people who plays intentionally bad (like, with all intents and purposes, plays to lose) is actually a thing. Playing with people who are less skilled in their role or even in general as a player, its not really easy to avoid that. I mean, look at the pro teams in all esports, aside from just Overwatch. Even they can’t avoid being teammates with even just a player who’s like a bot.
Heck, I can give an example in CSGO history. Niko, when he was in Mouseports, had horribly incompetent players, and to make it worse, the org let go of their IGL… which mean Niko himself had to IGL… in a team that had horrible entry fraggers, crap supports, a streaky awper who is inconsistent as heck, and he had to basically not only micromanage but play different roles AT THE SAME TIME…
Another would be S1mple when he was in Team Liquid. You see, in CSGO atleast prior to ELeague Major 2018, the NA scene was basically a meme. Even if you’re the best in NA… you’re still NA. S1mple had to hard carry them in Majors… TWICE… while he was living in pretty crappy conditions in terms of a mental aspect (had to live away from home, because he lived in Ukraine prior to going to Liquid, and live with Team Liquid’s LoL team… imagine how out of place he might have felt). What’s worse is that Team Liquid had alot of drama in there. Sure, S1mple’s notorious for being toxic, but when you’re basically the best player in the world back then and even now (especially now), you have no idea how hard it is to set aside internal team drama in the middle of your matches when you got a team of guys who live on drama (except for Hiko, but even he had internal conflict with the peeps in there)… having teammates that suck personality-wise and gameplay-wise… imagine how horrible that is. And he was even lied to when it came to roles when he got in to Liquid. Funny, how a Ukrainian carried an NA team, no, a nation or even a region, to a Major semi-final and even to a final, only ironically or weirdly cucked by a South American team (then-LG/SK, now MIBR).
Both of them are in teams that are way less problematic than they were in, but the point is that maybe… if peeps were atleast, personality-wise, not pricks, maybe the competitive scene would be less problematic. But its still inevitable to have teammates who just aren’t up to par in terms of skills… even in the pro scene. Even those two that I’ve mentioned had to live with it, and they sucked it up.
A scoreboard maybe??
Bingo!
Jeff said, “the Dev team is not against a scoreboard.” They just need the time and cash
If they’re playing something you don’t want them to play, they’re obviously throwing. According to the majority, of course.