She seems pretty good now why would ypu want old Sym back? Her Teleporter changes how matches are played, turrets do much more damage and you can put them places were you originally couldn’t, her Ultimate shuts down sniper heroes forcing them to reposition to get picks, primary fire hard counters barrier spam and imo is much funner to use (auto aim is boring) and her secondary fire is actually useful now.
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Old symm mains misses her “casual” gameplay.
IMO I like the new symm more.
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they’re likely similar jerks that were crying for a rat buff and are upset they lost an easy cheese win hero
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Primary fire is crap though, that’s about the only thing that needs to get looked into. It shouldn’t be yielding less damage than when it was auto aim on average even with good tracking, like the entire point was to increase the damage.
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Hi yeah it’s coming from the fact that her primary fire is garbage. It’s too slow and too short and too precise to actually use it without dying.
They need to fix that primary, and then we can see where she stands.
I actually think the rework is rather promising if it wasn’t for the primary fire that people literally recommend you never use at all.
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Maybe if you actually had some time on sym before the patch you would understand why the new sym is so bad. Anything that could kill sym before can now kill sym even faster. She no longer is good for sniping through shields to take out picks like bastion, and primary fire sucks. Not to mention she only gets 3 turrets now, so every time one is destroyed it is that much more of her dps that drops. The only reason she is decent, not good, but decent is because people have not adjusted to her rework yet, once they do you will find out she is worse than old sym.
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Stats don’t support your perspective. Win rate is down, pick rate barely moved.
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You can’t play her like you did before. You need to be much more passive and your tele is nearly useless unless youre using it out of a team fight to get high ground. Primiary fire is terrible and you cant farm ult through chokes because you cant shoot through shields.
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Because people have habits. They(sym mains) are very used to her old kit and cant adapt her more skill demanding style. While other people who actually started playing her for the first time like me will have better results. Because there is no experience transfer in this situation she is completely new and much much better than old brain dead version.
*less skill demanding style. Seriously, everyone that talks about her in a favorable light never played her before. Btw, yes, she is lower skill now. Her primary fire is useless, so you don’t use it. Her secondary fire no longer passes through shields, so you just spam it without having to aim, because you have to count on the target either not moving or walking into it. Her tele which replaced barrier can not be used to save her from hooks, rockets, and any number of other thing it used to save her from, because it takes so long to deploy, and she has to stay near it in order to use it, that as an escape it is almost useless unless it is deployed before you enter a fight, which never works against people that engage you. Her ult is now a strong teamfight ult, which can win a fight, but picks like tracer could care less, and it replaces tele which could give snowball victories on attack, or shield gen which was a constant passive shield for everyone, and at worst a distraction for flankers. Her turrets where improved but now there are less and easier to use. So yeah, much simpler play, effectively lower dps, less survivability, and fewer turrets. She got nerfed.
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I love the new Sym, but I think it’s the fact to must become an Aim hero, I played Symmetra because it was easy to deal damage like with my garbage aim, but now… but I really like, her, I just don’t use primary fire that most ^^
Hurr durr meh skill!1
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Wow such strong and well thought arguments I cant beat that I surrender.
Her left click is garbage, and trying to get people to use teleporter is impossible.
Because of this it feels like I’m playing a really bad DPS.
If people actually played around her utility it wouldn’t be as bad, but right now the only thing she brings is damage and not even good damage. She doesn’t have an ultimate where you press Q and get a multi kill, and no one makes good use of her teleporters.
hard to justify playing her over any other dps.
Feels a lot like medivh when he was first launched in hots, completely useless on anything but highly coordinated teams.
You had me up until right here. Old Symm was a trapper, from the nest building all the way down to her lock on fire… It required deep knowledge of the maps and an ability to predict other player movements.
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No aim? Sure.
Passive? Nope. Predictive.
*Brain Dead * Foh…
Otherwise, spot on.
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When I watch people play Sym I never see them use her beam it’s always orbs or turrets. What’s even the point of her beam? 
Beam is if you want to suicide
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Idk, cant imagine why, i mean its not like her pickrate is still struggling to break 1% or anything …
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Because now you have to be engaging with her and can’t just setup a microwave nest somewhere and take it easy
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