Widowmaker health decreased from 200 to 175 in Season 3.
Can this really be called weakening? Her fitness is just back to what it should be.
I demand further weakening of her.
The reason is that Widowmaker is the only character who can resist Widowmaker.
This fact doesn’t change even if her stamina is slightly reduced.
I’m not asking you to remove her identity.
However, I cannot forgive the fact that the identities other than her are dead.
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She is fine right now, she actually have more rooms to be countered now by diving investments.
200HP was a bit too much as she gets away safely with everything invested into diving her. Dare I say failed dives have more impact towards losing the match than Widow herself if let be.
I was getting really annoyed at Widow. I think she’s good now. The health nerf was enough.
I think no matter what Widow’s one shot is gonna be questionable at times, but I don’t think it’s Widow’s fault. They just need to stop making sniper maps.
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Its both satisfying and annoying visually when i head shot widow as Mei and i see that hp sliver. It makes me wanna go for the follow up into the eye ball so badly.
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I wish I could see more Mei vs Widow for Mercy to damage boost. She 1hs kills her now. Larger projectile. Fast speed. You need a higher charge to kill Mei on headshot. Needs 3 bodyshot kill against Mei. Widow still slows herself making headshots easier. Along with corner peaking.
I wish more Mercy’s would damage boost me when im 1v1ing a widow. It’s so hard to get mid elo Mercy’s to damage boost characters for situational matchups.
I believe Ashe with dmg boost can oneshot her now. Also Sombra got a decent dmg buff. So flanking Widow doesn’t feel like suicide anymore.
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I mean, she’s a lot easier to poke and dive now, and as a Soldier enjoyer, she feels petty fair to play against now.
she is already pretty weak look at her arms. practically a skeleton
I usually dunk on her as Sombra all day outside of when she has her ult going.
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She just needs longer charge time, that way shes forced to actually stand still and lane like a real sniper would. This thing she has going on right now where she can bunny hop left and right and still land one shots on her way down from a jump is ridiculous. She deals a max of 300 damage for a crit and shes a hitscan hero. She literally reaches max charge before hanzo does! How does that make any sense? Widow is just ridiculously broken. Even if widow had only 1hp, all she needs is one good shot (because shes hitscan) to easily win a fight and instantly force players to hide behind walls. Widow puts the fear of god just for existing because she dishes out an absurd amount of damage anywhere she wants in a map.
By increasing the time it takes to get a max shot, widow would be more stationary. She could still put the fear of god on you but flankers would have a much easier time getting to her. Widow also wouldn’t be able to bunny hop and land body or crit shots and instantly deleting a flanker.
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For real. There’s a reason everyone groans when you see a sniper map on the loading screen.
Funny thing I just noticed too. In terms of killing squishies, Widowmaker’s charge time in order to kill one (0.32 second zoom in + 0.567 charge time) is faster than Ana’s entire sleep dart animation (0.304 second cast time + 0.67 recovery).
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Current map rotation heavily favors Widow atm which is where the real problem lies. The bad map design.
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I think she needs to be 150hp. Widow fundamentally not a healthy hero for the game. She should be niche pick and the Widow player should take the risk.
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I agree with you. She’s not okay. Widowmaker is the only character that has 300 headshot damage. Let them cut it down to 250, like a hanzo.
Why does she need 300 headshot damage at all? Are tanks her target?
This just sounds like a bad case of the skill issue. If you seriously cannot kill a widow by this point in the game, especially as a dive tank, then maybe you should consider that the widow is just good and shouldn’t be penalized for spending time getting good at a hero.
Thats like saying doomfist needs a nerf because ZBRA is insanely good at him and can be super oppressive.
If widow is such a problem, play widow and tell me how easy it is to get kills. It takes time and dedication to get really good with widowmaker. Punishing someone for doing so is fundamentally a stupid idea.
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The toxicity of Widowmaker is that her basic concept is the overall issue.
If you weaken her, the game becomes healthy, but you also ruin Widowmaker and might as well delete her.
I’d love a rework for her. Add her sniper shots to her ultimate while changing her base kit to more of a vemous rifle build.
Other than that, what can we do? Snipers are the problem. They can instantly kill you, making any sight-line unplayable. They sit all the way at the back and outrange everyone but another sniper. They also have their entire team that you have to contend with as well.
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Nice! Give her a rifle similar to Ashe’s that deals 100 damage over 2 seconds and can stack 3 times. When she gets her ult she gets infra sight and her rifle fires sniper bullets like now. But only for the duration of the ultimate.
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the people who whine about characters like widow seldom can play them well at all.
also the amount of people i see actually good at widow pales in comparison to how people make her out to be
i play widow and dont die to her much, usually my fault not paying attention or she had better aim.
i learned how to play zarya, when i did i found her a lot easier to deal with
actually play the hero and learn its weaknesses instead of whining