We need a scoreboard, I saw an Ana playing DPS in replay

it’s not so much about asking the Ana to step up the healing. It’s more about thinking we have 2 healers on the team with no actual way to confirm it. And switching to healer myself

and I think a PBSR related scoreboard would really shine here, so we wouldn’t have to remember what’s a good healing number at any point in the match. Even though we could compare the numbers to the other healer

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That’s the problem - there is no such thing as a magical “good healing” number - it’s all contextual, the same reason a scoreboard doesn’t make sense for Overwatch. Overwatch isn’t a game where kills per death is the only important statistic - and if it was, then it would make sense for Ana to be damaging instead of healing.

So there’s multiple ways to approach this anecdotal situation:

  1. Kill things before she has a chance. I see you’re a Bastion main; this should be no problem if you play well.
  2. Bastion can heal himself; do your job and reposition while pressing right click and it won’t be a problem. Team composition doesn’t matter in the lowest brackets. Heck, forget the lowest brackets, Kabaji is able to run 5 DPS and get a W.
  3. Maybe you should be thinking of it more from the perspective of “Hmm, should I keep playing my 30% win rate Bastion or is there something else that would be more useful for my team?”
  4. If you insist on playing Bastion, then you need to focus on improving yourself and learning how to deal with unique situations, because Bastion is a situational hero with many glaring weaknesses when used as a general-purpose hero.

Because it’s a team-fight based game, not a kills-per-death game like Counterstrike or Quake. So either improve yourself so you can hit Top 500 with Bastion like Kolorblind, or learn to adapt by learning other heroes. You’re not going to climb by focusing on your teammates making mistakes or by playing the same way you always do with a 30% winrate. I’m not trying to be a jerk, but that win rate should be screaming at you. It’s important and relevant for a reason. Either get good or play something else, otherwise you have absolutely no justification for blaming your teammates.

By the way, ML7 deals damage as Ana all the time - maybe your idea of what an effective Ana looks like is just wrong. They’re called supports for a reason - if Bastion isn’t pulling his weight, support might mean “do some work” instead of “heal the Bastion that isn’t doing work.”

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You started out good, but quickly devolved back to your old ways.

This post is about the Ana on my team who went AFK for the first minute and then went onto play DPS Only Ana.

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Number 3 is the main issue here, imo.

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if I play enough Bastion, I will settle into the rank I deserve.

Playing DPS only Ana is gameplay sabotage.

A PBSR related scoreboard means nothing if the Ana is always a DPS, choosing not to heal. The numbers would be similar, so you would have no useful information.

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well I’m assuming that healing is the primary thing that affects PBSR for Ana, maybe I could be wrong though

Im sure a dps ana will settle into the rank they deserve as well…

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but you’re missing the point

dps mercy is gameplay sabotage

and I think DPS ana might be as well

But you’re missing the point. DPS healers isnt your “problem”.

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that point should be made in another thread

Okay, I’ve put up 25k healing as Moria and lost, and I’ve put up 8k and won. An efficient win where a team works together and the takes a low amount of damage requires less healing. How does a scoreboard differentiate? Which Moria performed better?

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Nah, there’s a spreedsheat with datamined info from season 8 I believe on what 5 main factors which determines the PBSR gain and the 2 factors which affects it in a negative way the most.

It’s different for all heroes as well as ranks but almost all th PBSR comes from % based stuff, with Ana if I recall in gold/plat it was something like sleep dart % / sleep darts/10mins avg, scoped accuracy %, unscoped accuracy %, nano boost assists and so on, similar stuff to that.

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no, I see you put up 8k healing AAAAND we are loosing, it’s time for me to switch to healer

I remember that spread sheet, nevertheless, I need to see a scoreboard :slight_smile:

"if I play enough DPS Ana, I will settle into the rank I deserve.

Playing Bastion in situations where he is highly ineffective is gameplay sabotage."

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that’s on the game developers imho

the point is I don’t care if Ana plays DPS, my complaint is that everyone is assuming she is going to heal. And noticing whether or not she is healing would be facilitated with a scoreboard.

It would tell you how much she is healing but it would not tell you whether or not she is being effective. OW is a game where stats cannot be easily translated to effectiveness. Poor tank and dps play can lead to poor healer stats, even if the healers are playing well. A scoreboard would allow the poor tank/dps players to abuse the healer even though it’s actually their fault. They just don’t understand the game well enough to know it’s their fault.

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I have won many games with low healing output. An immense amount of healing isn’t always a good thing. It could mean your team is taking too much damage, feeding ult charge for the other team. A team that understand positioning will typically take less damage, leading to less healing.

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You don’t need a scoreboard to see this.
Just position yourself so ana safely sees you.
Ask for heals.

If you are sure she refuses, ask the team to switch if possible or if you want, report and move on.

It’s not magic to get it when she truly refuses to heal multiple times.

Theres nothing wrong with trying to get a finish as support. If you dont lose bc of it.

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correct

she was playing in front of the tanks

I wish you could see the replay

If you wanna think that OWL coaches don’t watch stats mid game, I don’t want to take that away from you.

the positives would far outweigh the negatives, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water