Tomato, tomato. Whether it be a smurf/alt/whatever you want to call it account, their impact on the game is the same.
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Not true. Throwing is reportable. Being better than everyone in the lobby isnât. Being at a lower SR than you should be isnât âcheatingâ and isnât reportable. Spamming false reports makes it harder to verify genuine ones. It makes the problem worse.
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I think we can all agree that youâre the undesirable one
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You obviously donât get it.
Smurfing is not just a simple case of being better.
Of course the smurf player is better than everyone else in their match because theyâre actually a higher rank player playing in a low rank match that they donât belong in.
That isnât cheating, no.
But a high rank player on a low rank smurf, that is cheating as per Blizzardâs own reporting system definition of same, specifically the part that mentions âunfair advantageâ because thatâs precisely what a smurf player has.
Except reporting smurfs for cheating is not false reporting as outlined above.
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Reporting smurfs does not work. I have reported lots of GM players that decided it would be fun to throw until Plat or lower and destroy on Genji then throw on soldier/torb.
These are the ones that have been doing it for over a year and rubbing everyones nose in it by having an open profile with a top 500 icon.
Few days ago I ran into a group boosting and nothing happened. Same night I ran into a cheating Hanzo with a 50% crit rate for that game and nothing happened there either.
Blizzard has given us nothing but âoh yeah we got things in place so that doesnât happenâ⌠Cheating, smurfing, throwing⌠all of it goes mostly unpunished.
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I been doing that. I seen a drop in my area with smurfs plus their attitude is poor so ab report fits.
That just means theyâre ignorant of the terminology. Smurfing is intentionally holding the account at a far lower level than you play at so you can amuse yourself by screwing with people that are legitimately trying.
Smurfs are usually constantly toxic anyway. Not much of a false report when they already behave like crap.
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Yesnât.
The simple fact is, you donât throw on an alt account. Youâre not intentionally trying to seal-club.
On a smurf, you do both.
anyone i report, i also throw in an abusive chat report.
usually if they are cheating, they are toxic too.
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If you make your account lower SR, by throwing, you need to be banned for throwing. Then banned for cheating.
You only derank to cheat the system.
Ban them. Dealt with.
Iâm not in favor of using automated report system. Iâm in favor of blizzard improving itâs analytics engineâŚyou can clearly tell when someone is consistently hitting higher accuracy per volume of shotsâŚis smurfingâŚitâs the same method that can automatically detect aimbots. Someone nailing every shot at higher ranks is more believable at lower ranksâŚ
Youâd also be spotting all the account boosting going onâŚ
yes there is
itâs the only report blizz do anything about
so yes indeed there is reason to report them for ab chat
YeahâŚbecause people totally donât use the automated report system as a tool for cyber bullying⌠Plz use the system as it was intendedâŚnamely to stop serious cyber bullying, trolling, descrimination, and sexism.
I view gray area reporting like this as cyber bullying of passive aggressive individuals. Letâs not kid ourselvesâŚpeople abuse automated systems.
This inane abuse of the reporting syst m is burying real cases of abuse. We as a community may need to start cracking down on these individuals.
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This is the system players demanded and Blizzard gave them. It was never really meant for anything other than reporting people just because you donât like what they do.
Thatâs actually what players wanted and they are lying to themselves if they think otherwise.
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Fight fire with fire. Iâm gonna start doing this.
I have a friend who is a girl and the stuff she has had to put up withâŚlike: " a girl is playing mercy, sheâs the reason we lostâŚ". Or players saying " switchâŚto a shield tankâŚor we reportâŚwhile these players play whatever they like"âŚjust doesnât compare to this ops request.
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Youâre using your own personal definition of cheating. Jeff, himself, has said that smurfing is NOT reportable and NOT against the rules. Again, if theyâre throwing to maintain a lower rating, then thatâs reportable. If theyâre just at a lower rating than they ought to be, whether itâs their first or 50th account, thatâs NOT reportable.
then stop complaining about getting burned
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A high rank player on a low rank account has the same impact on the game regardless of whether theyâre a smurf or alt or whatever else you want to call them.
They have an unfair advantage over players actually at those lower ranks, and according to Blizzard anything that gives an unfair advantage is cheating.