Wallhack - Aimbot's are the new norm in every game

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It seems like all the good players are gone and replaced by cheaters.

These guys watch through walls. They aim slightly near enemies that they know are coming. Their aim assist snaps to target.

Bad cheaters spam snap. They don’t use angles or positioning or game sense, they don’t fight for dominate positions. They just watch through walls and bot snap. Same speed snap no matter what. They snap in semi circles, they snap straight up and straight down at steep vertical angles THE SAME SPEED and lesser angles. And they are in every single game.

It feels like coming back to an apocalypse. You guys know everyone is cheating right? Do you know what a good player looks like? Cause I do and I don’t see them anymore, it’s like everyone is replaced by AI … but more toxic than ever.

Can you imagine paying $160 a month and not being able to rank up because everyone else is paying $160 too? The anger you must feel when your teammate is not a cheating hitscan like you. They know they are the best aimers cause they are cheating, so losses are everyone elses fault. Obviously they are good, they have cheats so they don’t have to be aware of actual gameplay or try to play with the team. When a game goes bad, its YOUR fault cause they have cheats.

Cheating is not even common, it’s normal now! And these idiots are a huge source of toxicity. Not only coming from them, but what they cause. This game is in the worst state I have ever seen a AAA game in.

It reminds me of old days when Gamerz planet was a thing and all the cheaters flocked to asian games like Gunz the duel and Genesis AD or Supa Supa. I used to run the cheat circuit, used to make trainers and pixel bots.

Only these new cheats look natural if you don’t know any better, so all the newbie FPS players who have no experience outside of Overwatch don’t call them out. They defend blatant cheaters. Look they missed! It didn’t headshot! I can beat him though he’s not cheating! It’s like gaming idiocracy here… everyone is cheating openly!

~Editing due to language | Moderator Faindln~

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am I the only one that has (I don’t think) ever run into a Cheater? Maybe you just encountered a smurf.

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I’ve seen some pretty shady things in bronze that even a gm wouldn’t be able to pull off. All we can do is send in replays and explain what we think is going on.

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I’ve definitely seen a few, confirmed by the popup message and/or being the blatantly obvious ones that don’t even attempt to conceal it… but on average it’s been something like once per year.

Granted there might be really crappy cheats like the ones this thread describes, where it basically upgrades Bronze-level aim to Silver-level aim, which I don’t think I would notice (or really even care) if I saw, since they’d still be the weakest player in the match while cheating.

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I used to think like this too, until I ran into a few confirmed cheaters.

I was playing with a friend who is a Sombra one-trick. And in one afternoon, we ran into several people tracking him through walls while invisible and headshotting him (still invisible) from like 20m away. Just snap-locked aim, headshot, back to business. Yes we reported, yes got that “thank you” message on the title screen a few hours later.

Now I tend to view these topics with a bit less skepticism. I can’t say for certain how many cheaters there are out there, but at the very least, I know it’s a real problem. I’ve been starting to review replays a lot more often because of it.

And that’s not even mentioning the plethora of recent games where an enemy (or sometimes even a teammate) Widowmaker is getting four headshots in a row firing through such heavy foliage that none of the enemy were even visible. Yes reported, yes confirmed.

I had encountered one confirmed and real cheater in my first year and a half playing this game. I’ve encountered at least four in the past week. Too small a sample size to draw a definite conclusion, but it’s enough to know that there is a problem in this game.

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Literally my words. I could give you the replay codes of my last 10 games and you wouldn’t see a single good player. Even the winning teams are just full of terrible players.

I’ve seen a thread once here and the person said “I have never, ever seen so many bad players in just game in my 20 years of gaming. Simple things like Forward, backwards aren’t understood. Or things like we are 3 people and shouldn’t rush into 6 people and let them snowball us? Not in this game”.

Furthermore, most players think cheaters don’t exist. Do you remember Modern Warfare 2? I thought that game had a cheating problem back in the day, boy was I WRONG. It was HEAVEN compared to nowadays games… Seriously, go ahead and ask most people what they think about the relevance people cheating in video games. And yes, I obviously consider the fact that gaming in general has become more popular.

Something I also noticed is how a lot of cheaters toggle their cheats off after you call them out for it, It’s so laughably blatant, especially when they play like bots and if you look at their general positioning and decision making. Online games have become complete garbage.

Ah, he was already here. In what kind of microcosm do you live? Somewhere where everyone is honest and where unicorns are walking around?

This is the general, sad truth about online gaming. Pretty sad.

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There have been some fishy things lately
“But how do you know?”

A low plat doesn’t just dominate on Widow, I know who well plat player play and no one tracks through the wall (when infrasight is off)

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Many people don’t realize that on xbox, cheaters are out of control, especially late at night and into the morning hours. Quickplay and Comp.

Cheaters are on your team as well as theirs and it can difficult to spot if you don’t know what you’re looking for. Sadly there is nothing that can be done, since cheaters if caught, just make a new xbox account. There are no consequences to cheating on xbox.

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Many people think cheating looks like rage hacking with spin botting, snapping, ESP tracking through walls, and only head shots. The reality is, many hacks are designed to look natural and prioritize targets like supports with alternating random body shots versus head shots.

One way this is accomplished is through soft aim with adjustable FOV that is activated by primary fire. The player must aim close enough to the target and click mouse 1 in order for the hack to give an aim assist. Low FOV settings is why hackers can, and do, miss shots. Most “natural” hacks like this also have settings for how fast the aim assist will adjust to the target. This prevents a “snapping” effect. Additionally, the hacks also have settings that will only activate for high-value targets like other duelist hitscans (Widow/Ashe), support heroes, or when fight-winning ults are used like Genji’s blade. These hacks can also be toggled on and off to win important (potentially game-winning) fights.

One thing I’ve noticed lately is players that get hard stomped in the first round will leave the game during intermission and return during the second round with, what appears to be, vastly improved aiming skills and game sense. These “natural” hacks are difficult to detect during VOD review even at slow speeds and most players have zero experience with what hacking looks like.

Blizzard likely already uses machine learning algorithms to detect bad actors, but more needs to be done–especially with massive performance differentials between rounds.

One common reply to this is simply, “they are just smurfing!” However, it’s often clear that the hacker has little high-level game knowledge (positioning, ult economy, off angles, lack of high-ground awareness, lack of lane management, support LOS, cooldown management, counter picking, etc).

A few commonalities I’ve observed:
-relatively new accounts
-sometimes old accounts with huge jumps in SR between seasons (i.e.–silver/gold player for 20 seasons then suddenly mid diamond/low masters with an 80% winrate on a hitscan).
-usually in a stack with other players (checked by trying to invite them to a group during the game)
-lack of game sense/map knowledge
-attempt to make many “hero” plays rather than focusing on team play
-track high-value targets through shields
-have trouble hitting the intended target when many hero are positioned in a tight cluster
-seemingly massive skill jumps between rounds on the same hero
-manages to do nothing all game, then suddenly becomes an unstoppable menace during important game-winning fights

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there is so many wall hackers in OW
aimbot not so many but wall hack is 10x times more

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ah yes a 0 post account saying aimbots are in every game… i very much trust this… thats a joke btw, i don’t believe you. what your saying sounds wrong, and i haven’t seen this in my QP games or comp games. in all my time of OW i have seen only one actual cheater, it was an under 25 account in QP lol

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I’ve seen this post before.

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LOL came here to say exactly this.

I can’t tell if I’m naïve or just lucky, because as far as I can tell, I haven’t played against any cheaters. Maybe I just don’t know what cues to look for… or maybe it’s because I exclusively play QP, but I just don’t see it.

Then I hop on the forums and it seems like this game is just over run with hackers… I just don’t know.

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yeah same. maybe i have actually had a few hackers in my games and just passed it off as a smurf or something

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My sentiments exactly. I’m still somehow playing this mess. Much less often…and im not enjoying it in the least.

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Yes. They are legit everywhere. No judgement on you or your SR but it very much is noticeable diamond and above. Even in QP now. Every day.

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really? i thought hackers would be more noticeable in lower ranks.

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That’s the key part of your statement. Which is by design.

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Yea you’d think. I often hear “Why would they cheat in QP?” Or with insert character i mean, i dunno. Why cheat in competitive, or in ow. Or in any other game. These people are compensating for something that is missing in their real lives. What that may be I don’t know. But it is incredibly sad to think they are paying to actively ruin others fun. It makes no sense at all. You’re not better at the game. You aren’t learning anything. You’re just being awful.

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yeah i guess. I cant be 100% sure obviously