Wake up babe, OWL sucks again

Haven’t for a long time and never again if they continue choosing to not be good

Morals aside the broadcasts arent even good the good casters got tf out while they could and the people showing the gameplay don’t follow the action well and it’s unenjoyable

I dont even afk farm tokens anymore because thatd be supporting them

Lets make it simple. There have been a LOT of balance changes to the game over the years. Can you point to a single one that you can say was made due to OWL because I have never been able to? I can point to every change and be like “yep that was because of the ladder meta”. The only dev resources that they have gotten is the replay viewer and that is not really much.

The first thing Microsoft needs to do with this franchise when the sale is final is shut down the OWL. It’s never going to be a thing.

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I don’t think that any changes have been made 100 percent because of the League. But I do think Blizzard hesitates to make changes because they might make OWL less entertaining.

I think that’s why Tracer nerfs took so long. And why Symmetra is still just a tp bot. Now I’m not saying the League is the only reason, but it’s likely a factor.

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As someone who has lived in Pittsburgh i appreciate this. Lol.

Tracer nerfs took so long because she was only good above Masters and you had Jeff coming onto the forums and talking about the most popular heroes in Gold as though that is the meta. Blizzard was just being strange as it relates to anything balance for 2016-2017.

Sym is a TP bot because again of low ranks. She is very strong in low ranks and so they are afraid of making her good because of breaking lower ranks. It is the same reason they are hesitant to change Bastion or Reaper or Torb or Junkrat. They are not handicapped by OWL but by the need to avoid breaking the lower ranks.

I literally just watched the “downfall of h1z1” that had similar circumstances with their ‘pro league’ it’s almost 1 to 1 the same.

To back up this claim this weekend at Evo a former contenders player won in Guilty Gear Strive or finished top 8.

Made more money with that win than being an ow pro player and said the game is kinda trash.

Owl and contenders is wild this year. I can’t tell if it’s the teams or the patch changed that are dictating who is good.

All I hope for is they figure out how to patch push to be better or give an option to avoid.

It’s looking like the new Paris map to me

was OWL ever good? Like, ever?

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wait, people care about OWL?

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Not only did they forgot to notify Myunb0ng in NYXL, the media team apparently wasn’t matching the orgs timing, so the brand is at fault.

Also not only that, but Myunb0ng’s picture was used earlier on the game vs Outlaws when they won. So clearly someone’s not doing his job at all lmao.

I don’t know what you expect from esports. This isn’t professional sports, where they are bringing in billions of dollars a year. It’s an Esport. And as such, isn’t able to hire the brightest of people.

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This. Esports aren’t big money, and they aren’t anyone’s career. It’s something cool people do for a year or two when they’re young before they get into a real career. Don’t expect too much from it.

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I can just imagine if the player was kicked from a team twice there’s a good indication something is wrong there.

And it’s not the team’s fault I’m almost positive

I don’t know if Adam played for Mayhem, but in the Valiant’s case he was signed and then IGC shafted their entire NA org by accepting OWL’s money to move the team to APAC and refusing to fill out the paperwork to send the NA team to China. Since the NA team had no way to legally get into China, IGC was “forced” to release them all having played zero games in APAC.

Definitely wasn’t a player skill issue in that case, the org just cheated all the players.

IDK how this is a “Discussion” thread. I mean its just “this happened, Its bad, please outrage/complain” but ok. Certainly not delivering this news first and with the appropriate timeline and chain is really bad, but I dont think that is a HUGE issue and certainly doesn’t affect at all most aspects of OWL as a Spectator.

I guess some people use forums like its Twitter or something.

They used his face when they won last night too like what lol

I’m sure you can be kicked from a team for reasons other than your ability to play the game. I thought this was a personal problem with specific team members but it seems like this is a different problem altogether

I had hoped, before OWL started, that it would propel eSports into a higher realm of respectability and public enthusiasm, and perhaps even start pushing it towards a level of popularity that would (just barely) begin to approach the popularity of real sports in the wider world.

Ostensibly it has done the exact opposite. Instead of bringing a new dawn of popular eSports, it has pushed the respectability and enthusiasm for eSports into a pit, where it will have to linger for a few more decades until someone figures out how to do eSports correctly.

TL;DR - I had hoped OWL would bring more popularity, respectability, and professionalism to eSports. However it seems to have done the exact opposite.

Again? It always has.

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