Wake me when hanzo is dumpstered

If supports are getting further nerfs, he needs to go down with them.

Both him and soldier are just way too good right now.

So sick of every game just being a pocketed soldier + hanzo fest.

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oh i wish he would get nerfs and soldier be nerfed back down to where he originally was like its pretty much hell in some matches due to them

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Soldier absolutely needs 19 damage per bullet. Every time he goes down to 18 or 17, he is unplayable.

Strong hanzo can be annoying, and design-wise, I don’t know how to fix that. But Hanzo can be canceled by good positioning too. But the problem is that good positioning is characteristic to around 10-15% of the playerbase, based on their in-game rank.

So it’s really a hard topic. When I get hanzo against me and I am dps or tank, I just ignore him and try not to play his game. I try to be a tankbuster, cancel the enemy tank, and now they are suddenly 3v5. Not saying this is an ultimate solution, it’s just the way I handle his presence.

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Just climb to GM, then you’ll see him way less. You’ll just have to deal with a Genji every game instead.

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Nah, the opposite needs to happen. Supports need to lose all CC, utility, invulns, etc. And Hanzo could use some buffs. Wake me up when the entire support role is dumpstered, it’s long overdue, autopilot role needs to be removed from the game.

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When you get that crit as Hanzo :ok_hand:

i’ve been seeing hanzo less and less recently which has been a blessing and a curse because he’s just been replaced by ximmers on ashe and widow

He originally was 20 damage and no recoil, give me that, and I’ll make you regret.

All they need to do is revert the recoil buff and reduce the damage of Helix rockets.

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Sounds to me like Call of Duty is more your thing than Overwatch.

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Not unplayable, but very weak. Which is exactly what the easiest hero should be.

It’s not but support mains are annoying, the role is too easy and gives complete free value, and I can unplug the monitor and win every game if I lock support. It’s just absurd that people want DPS to be nerfed into oblivion but it’s fine if supports can completely prevent multiple team deaths from ults at that? How about no. Blizzard created a nightmare of a problem with this, cause, of course, all the mindless fools will want to spam their invulns on themselves and their team, it’s literally OP and ridiculous and ā€œā€œfunā€ā€ to do that.

I’d love for half of you to even bother playing DPS for more than 100 games and let me know how fun it is to have all of your effort negated by the support role. But some people will remain mindless even with evidence put in front of them spelled out word for word.

Then do it if it’s so easy.

They don’t. Soldier got a recoil buff he absolutely didn’t need, and it should be reverted. Sombra got a massive buff with her rework and deletes most enemies with little to no risk. Bastion deals way too much damage and is too survivable for easy he is to play. Pharah is useless above Diamond, and only exists to be a ā€œWe’re losingā€ switch.

This is a toxic mindset.

You want the entire role to be gutted because the meta supports are too strong. Should we gut the dps role because Soldier and Bastion are too strong? I thought not.

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Bro how low rank do you have to be to struggle against hanzo? You want to make a hanzo switch? Focus him down, he’s easy to kill.

You need a midrange shooter to take down shields and all the healing tanks get. You nerf damage and they will become even more like bullet sponges.

low ranks arent the only ones that struggle with hanzo lol he’s a nightmare in every rank. tanks hate him, supports hate him, and dps always have to mirror him. then it becomes which hanzo has the better bs pure luck shots.

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I spent an entire season one-tricking hanzo, i’m not sure what my hour count is but it’s sure to be around 24-50 hours spent on him alone. Deranked to bronze from gold, spent the rest of the season climbing back to silver. Now im back at gold and i’m damn near plat even though i’ve started picking up my old rotation of heros, in addition to hanzo.

I also went from 20-30% accuracy to a consistent 40-50% accuracy. That’s a pretty noticeable improvement if you’re playing a projectile character.

Hanzo isnt op, you’re quite delusional if you think his gameplay is ā€˜rng-based’ and requires no skill. If you spent more time actually playing him than complaining about him you’d realize that those ā€˜rng’ shots do, in fact, exist- but they don’t happen NEARLY as much as you think.

Hanzo takes skill to play, he’s not as easy as everybody thinks. Also, according to Overbuff, as of Competitive s7 with ā€˜all’ skill levels toggled, hanzo only has a 2.91% pickrate and a 48.24% winrate, those don’t look like the stats of an OP hero to me.

He really just has no weaknesses (it seems). You can’t duel him as he does extremely well at that range, you can’t outrange him as he has no fall off (and most Hanzos I fight are fantastic at long range), if you get close he can dash and wallclimb and he also has storm arrows to burst you down.

It’s like the best option for dealing with him is just to ignore him. I can’t even kill him with Sombra, as the second I start damaging him out of stealth he whips around and flicks me in the head with an arrow like it took no effort on his part. Even if I wait for him to loose the arrow he’s charging before I engage, it doesn’t matter.

I truly hate him more than any other character in the game.
Widow at least has ways to deal with her, he (seemingly) does not. He is a jack of all trades but master of all.

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Supports are not/shouldn’t just be generic healers that can also deal damage which is what losing all CC/utility/invuln etc. would be.

Not the first time I’ve seen it unfortunately.

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It’s like the best option for dealing with him is just to ignore him.

The worst thing you can possibly do in a match is ignore Hanzo. It’s free damage for him esp if he’s uncontested. Whenever anyone ignores me on Hanzo I just walk into their backline and oneshot their supports or spam the tank. :sob:

Imo, always contest Hanzo. Also, you can counter him, just dive him, or don’t give him the space to freefire onto your tanks and backline, LOL.

I can’t even kill him with Sombra, as the second I start damaging him out of stealth he whips around and flicks me in the head with an arrow like it took no effort on his part.

Dive when you KNOW Storm Arrow is down and move unpredictably. I know most players dont ā€˜ability track’ consciously but if you’re going to duel a hero with one-shot potential you kind of have to!

I have a feeling you’re not engaging with a hack/dot combo and you’re really standing there just trying to burn the Hanzo down, which surprise- doesn’t work lol. Give a hanzo player at any skillevel enough time to oneshot you and I guarantee you they will.