Please create a voice line in the “ping” system for asking a tank to put his shield on, similar to “I need healing”.
That would be helpful both for tanks (humans can’t remember everything) and for tank’s teammates.
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Play in cover while the Tank’s Barrier or midigation abilities are recharging/on cooldown.
It’s not about you. Stop being selfish.
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what if they’re doing something else and it’ll be better if they came back faster to shield? it’s not about it being about anyone else
Can I get you to stop posting nonsense like this?
No. That is your right of free will.
So if you got a tank that would rather be a DPS machine rather than provide cover, that’s their right and your bad luck.
Learn to play without a Tank because you will very likely recieve no Tank cover. So when you DO get a good Tank you will be more effective.
Or just stay stagnant and complain about it in the Forums.
Your choice.
nonsense like what?..
that’s like if a support wasn’t healing and such… a bad mindset either way, this is a team game. really i just think it would be a useful ping
true, i don’t think it’ll ever be added but where was i complaining? i’m fine without it
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By that logic you shouldn’t have a “I need healing” button either. What an inane comment.
I disagree. Healing is much more fluid and can be deployed with little to no friction in comparison to mitigation, which is usually tied to a cooldown or a health bar/resource meter, as well as being only available to those within range.
Not only that, but the responsibility of mitigating damage isn’t always for the purpose of protecting teammates. The tanks primary job isn’t as black and white as a Support’s is because mitigating damage and controlling space is a lot more dynamic than healing and damaging.
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Honestly, we don’t.
With the Global Healing passive, when out of combat, we no longer need the “I need Healing” line. It was from a time when only supports and a handful of outliers could recover HP.
But nice Strawman.
Having a Support not wanting to heal or being too busy to heal YOU specifically is also a likelihood. So knowing where medkits are located and safe routes to reach them is strongly advised. You cannot rely so heavily on your team despite this being a “team” game.
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You are right. But there are moments when tanks just forget to put the shield.
And yes, everything can be abused, including the X button.
was it not a good comparison? it’s not about healing or the shield but it was about asking for help/something
it takes like 50 years to recover alone, maybe just turn comms off if you don’t like it?
a shield being up is kinda useful is you wanna go to the front to make a play or something + what they said
yes you can?
sometimes i’m out of their line of sight and such and it’s quicker/better (ult charge n stuff) to just heal me
if they are busy it’s still fine to ping while someone else is low is in their line of sight, which they can deal with first
Still a Strawman as Barrier/Midigation abilities requiring a “I need…” voiceline is a different field altogether when compared to the healing variation since healing abilities are often more readily available and have more than one player assuming the role compared to Tank abilities/Midigation.
It was a poor comparison and a fallacy.
Don’t know how you came to the conclusion I don’t like the healing voicelines. I use them when I approach my supports outside their field of view so they hopefully turn around and heal. If they don’t I retreat to a Medkit even further back so I don’t catch any strays as I often don’t expect to be healed.
Also you don’t ALWAYS need a shield. You can flank, use high ground and use strategic cover. If OP is so reliant on a Tank ability that OP advocates for a voiceline, it sounds like they are frequently out of position or like standing in the killbox. I can only speculate.
If you do so you’re likely to build a dependency so severe, you start throwing blame when you aren’t enabled and don’t seek to improve. I prefer the method where good team play INCREASES my potential beyond the standard, not meet it.
That’s not what that term means. Ironically, the first thing you posted was a strawman argument.
It’s still necessary because it’s used to expedite that process. It’s not like health packs didn’t exist prior to the season 9 changes. You could always get healed without having a support do it for you.
That’s without even mentioning the fact that the global healing passive is a net negative for the game, along with the rest of the season 9 patch.
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Unless I am mistaken, I do believe I made an assumption. I am assuming the OP must play reckless/carelessly since they are advocating for a voiceline that orders the Tank to be a Tank. I said that they should play cover and not selfishly ask for a voiceline. If there’s a fallacy to that, I will admit to that.
You attempted to argue my argument by weaving healing into the conversation when we were focused on Tank abilities.
Your words when I made the point that playing cover while waiting for Tank abilities to come off cooldown:
Unless there’s another type of fallacy or definitions have changed, I do believe it qualifies.
Either way, its a terrible comparison to try and put the two together into the conversation in any capacity as Tanking abilities aren’t as readily available as healing abilities and there’s only one tank compared to 2 supports (the current standard, not counting the new modes being tried at the moment)
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First things first. The topic was about adding pings, not about abilities. The point of a ping is to alert your team to whatever it is that you need them to pay attention to. In this case, a ping that alerts the tank that you need assistance mitigating damage. It’s the same effect as being in VC and asking for the tank to hold their shield up for a sec so you can get past a choke.
By saying that OP should “stop being selfish and just use cover” implies that the only situation where that callout can be used is one where the player is poorly positioned, even though other situations do exist and occur just as frequently.
Regardless, the reason it’s pointless is because unlike healing, most mitigation can’t be deployed from afar, isn’t a readily available resource, and isn’t the primary objective of the tank role, meaning it’ll cause more chaos than cohesion within a team’s coms. Maybe a different variation like “I need cover here” with a marker ping akin to the regular ping would be more useful.
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