Crossed wires - someone else mentioned making a new account just just climb again, that, to me at least, is totally pointless lol.
Exactly this. Lol. The second they disallowed stacking over diamond 3. I all my friends and a bunch of streamers starting smurfing in plat.
I was on Val yesterday and had a Jett go 42 - 8 in Gold 2… It was pretty wild.
If that’s true, 15 games x 11 other players = potentially 165 players will have their match impacted by a smurf.
It also says nothing of numbers. Even if the system can perfectly place someone after 15 matches, that’s little consolation if players are experiencing a steady stream of smurfs “just passing through”.
I was pointing out that it’s normal to see smurfs in the lower ranks. There is no rank to derank from to play at the top.
Yes… That’s what a smurf is lol. Again, my point was someone pointed out some people make new accounts to ‘rise through the ranks’. This isn’t traditional smurfing and I cannot understand why someone would spend $20 to do this…
Some like to troll, others to have some easy wins without the stress of the higher ranks.
For example, I once ran into a bronze doomfist who’d wipe the team and proceed to teabag an enemy everytime he could get away with it. Talking about a guy who’d consistently get, in high gold, 3-4 kills per fight while reportedly being multiple ranks below the players he was trashing.
Well put - I know for a fact that if you are in mid-Gold getting an Alt on one side or the other is almost a guarantee.
Some like to troll, others to have some easy wins without the stress of the higher ranks.
For example, I once ran into a bronze doomfist who’d wipe the team and proceed to teabag an enemy everytime he could get away with it. Talking about a guy who’d consistently get, in high gold, 3-4 kills per fight while reportedly being multiple ranks below the players he was trashing.
That’s someone who needs therapy.
Possibly.
While this guy was very obvious, when I think about it it makes me wonder about the smart ones who don’t go over the top with skillshots. How many are there, and what does it mean to the integrity of the ladder?
I too have wondered this. I have seen too many cases of “suddenly got good at the last minute” after a game of absolute garbage play.
Activision Blizz too busy rolling all their money from duplicate accounts into Jeff’s toilet paper rather than fix ranked.
I’m in gold, have been for ages, fairly regularly I play well enough and the other team have asked what my ‘real’ rank is… It’s gold haha. I think people just perceive smurfs everywhere but the problem is NO WAY as bad as people say it is.
This right here says it all, the majority of players can’t tell a smurf from someone popping off, this is even more true in ranks from Silver-Platinum, I have a Silver bordered account, and still get accused of smurfing in Silver/Gold, like no my guy, I’m not, it’s just a good match for me.
Smurfs buy extra copies of OW, dota is free-to-play
Blizzard has every incentive to encourage as much smurfing as possible - they don’t care if players quit, you already bought the game.
Dota doesn’t make money from copies of the game so they have the incentive to stop smurfs.
Money talks
Every single one of those games is free to play, perhaps smurfing isn’t as much of an issue as so many like to pretend it is after all. I mean people who play these free to play games are fully willing to buy goofy cosmetics that are overly inflated in price all the time, and yet can’t or won’t spend $20 to buy permanent access to OW as it is now? It isn’t an issue then because if it was they would definitely do something about it. Period.
Blizzard DOES ban smurfs.
Smurf = someone who throws to intentionally stay in lower ranks
So someone who is GM is at least a smurf in about 15-30 matches depending on W-L ratio
Its something different to ban accounts you can do for free vs accounts people paid for…
VAC banned people can still play CS:GO on non-vac servers. These accounts could be permabanned from comp
So someone who is GM is at least a smurf in about 15-30 matches depending on W-L ratio
That doesn’t fit with the definition they gave you at all. There’s a difference between being over/under placed and intentionally manipulating your rank via boosting or throwing in order to smurf.
They defined it as someone who THROWS to INTENTIONALLY stay below their rank.
Someone being gm and starting a season at 3900 is not throwing nor are they intentially staying below their rank. You specifically said “someone who is GM is a smurf” which is false. If you want to say they’d be a smurf for that long on a new account sure but even then if they are not throwing nor are they trying to stay below their rank or buy anything other than a brand new account themselves (account sharing/buying bronze accounts is completely against ToS) then they are not smurfing.
Both of those are the key factors in making someone a smurf, they have to be doing it intentionally and they have to be throwing in order to stay low.
Blizzard DOES ban smurfs.
Smurf = someone who throws to intentionally stay in lower ranks
Is correct. If they are throwing to intentionally stay below where they should be then they are a smurf and are usually actioned when people actually report them throwing (instead of how a lot of low ranked players react with as “yay free win” when they are on the other team). They won’t do anything if people don’t report.
Just because there aren’t fluff news pieces about it (which the links op used are broken/fake as it is) doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. They get banned with all the other people who throw to get/stay at low ranks.
for those games it makes literally no difference, because they are free games.
even tho they banned a bunch of smurfs, they will create new ones and thats it.
That might be the definition of blizzard for a smurf, because they like the $$$$.
Coined by Geoff Fraizer and Greg Boyko, who played the online multiplayer game [Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness] under the names Shlonglor and Warp . The pair had become so proficient at the game that few people would play against them, so, in order to avoid scaring off potential competitors, the pair created alternate accounts named PapaSmurf and Smurfett
It literally just means deceptively pretending not to be themselves to wreck lesser players.
Plus, demonstrating intentionally deranking is trying to find a needle on a haystack to begin with
Imagine flagging (I mean, false flagging, which is in breach of the CoC) my post for trolling for literally giving the definition of smurfing.
Also imagine pretending blizzard actually cares, when we’ve seen popular streamers break the ToS with bronze to GM challenges, leaving a trail of corpses on their way.
VAC banned people can still play CS:GO on non-vac servers. These accounts could be permabanned from comp
But overwatch accounts cant. There are only official servers.