Unnecessary hate on blizzard

Why hating on blizzard now that we barely get free skins from event challenges while i am sure half of them had a free legendary skin (duck orisa, soldier 76)

You asked about lootboxes and we got them while from them we get tons of free stuff including lots of legendary skins for free

You lose something and you get something in return that is better i believe you all want something to hate on daily nowadays

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This is bait right?

If not then consider the dwindling playerbase and the astronomical prices they’re asking for these skins, also remember they removed a product people paid for and “gave” a free sequel thats actually a massive downgrade from the original and expect people to pay the prices for said skins which the bundles in most cases cost MORE than a new game.

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I dont think too many people hate on Blizzard/OW currently. They have done a lot of good steps, but they can still do more.

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Nope just saying that overwatch provides the biggest amount of free stuff any other f2p game ever does. You don’t even need to pay them with the free stuff you get weekly

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Lootboxes are not better. They are objectively worse (worse payout/less frequent) than they were in OW1.

The only way to perceive the new lootboxes as good is if you’re viewing it from Blizzards perspective because they can now sustain their own live service game via cosmetics instead of a box sale.

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Because I don’t care about skins, I care about gameplay.

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Rivals provides more lol

I don’t think Peeps really hate Bliz now coz they have actually improved quite alot compared to the pre MR era of laziness.

“B…but MR has free skins! Event Skins are Free!”
So does OW and more variations thanks to the re-implementation of Loot Boxes.

BUT, personally I still do not trust Aaron tho.

i dont think marvel rivals is any better? or maybe i dont pay attention to their cosmetic scene much…

EXCEPT… yea they have some crazy mods hehe :wink:

oh juno is sorry i think

It’s not that the hate is unnecessary. It’s that the hate is inevitable. It stems from the fact they consistently broke their players trust, expectations and hopes.
Hereinafter, “you” doesn’t refer to any person specifically:
Even one time - it’s hard to come back from a promise you’ve broken and the one who you failed will very likely remember it for a long time. But if you do it many times and as egregiously as Blizzard did? Whatever attempt you try to fix it afterwards will only lead to more distrust and the expectation that you are doing “good” just to screw over in bigger quantities later. Why? Because you’ve set that expectation.

To get out of it, they would need literal decades of raising the bar, doing well without failure and delivering on the promise. Even one slip-by will risk destroying whatever little credit they manage to secure over all those years (assuming they can hold out for that long).

Turning it around will be nothing short of a miracle; they’d likely need to be on all the best behavior for decades and still wait till the players they failed literally die out. Only then will they be able to fix it. So, TL;DR: it won’t happen. Not in our lifetimes.

70% of the stuff I get are useless weapon charms and other crap nobody cares about,

I just want them to focus on improving the gameplay and address annoying characters like Soljourn, Freja, Zarya, and Sombra.

Their way of handling ban appeals is also extremely opaque and untrustworthy, so is their customer support that cannot speak English or explain anything properly.

There is stuff to complain about. If you want to live in your perfect pink Barbie world then go ahead.

As someone who is experiencing blizzard for the first time in just the past year, or like 15 months I will say this. They suck. If this is the improvement from what it was I don’t know what to tell you all. I guess they are better than EA? I dunno.
I don’t play games for skins, I will usually buy a battle pass or the welcome bundle and use the extra coins for the battle pass. It’s a decent value. I get enough gold from playing to not really miss any shop skins I want so the terrible free models and fomo marketing doesn’t really get me that bad.
But I do see how toxic it is.

As far as game play goes it’s been a steady decline over the past year as far as I can tell. Could be budgeting but that’s on them. If they think they stay afloat better focusing on cosmetics vs hiring game developers and coders that is their choice. But the following things in my opinion have been absolutely huge losses

5v5 open queue is completely gone. People can say that’s a good thing since they now have 6v6 Max 2. I hard disagree that it’s a good thing. It’s a make up for them turning off a game people rightfully bought and want to play and it’s at the expense of people that just want to play overwatch 2. So adding 6v6 isn’t a win at all, bringing ow1 back to playable would be. Losing a mode isn’t a win at all it’s 100% a loss.

MH role queue is gone. I know it was only brief but it is far superior to the regular version and quite honestly should have a ranked aside from my wants let’s say player base just isn’t there. I understand can it at least be in arcade? They botched it’s release so bad but having broken wait timers saying the queue times were 15+ minutes when they were under 5 all the time. But people see the time and don’t queue so of course they didn’t get players to play it over the regular version. That’s a loss. So now we are two modes gone in one year, again that’s definitely not a win.

Stadium.
The big ugly step child of it which has probably a lot to do with the downfall lately.
First there is a separate team on it, that’s great, but I’d prefer more with be going into the base game. Regardless it is what it is but here is the big issue. The game mode was not ready to be released.
They ran a closed test. They put a lot of us in that test. They were given feedback in that test and they ignored it. But it’s worse they didn’t just ignore it they outright said no to it. The large majority in the test asked for less than 7 rounds. Asked for slightly longer matches. Asked for less items and item filtering from heroes where it would be useless. The community manager in the playtest literally said they had “already done extensive testing and they landed on these things because they are better and they will not be changed”. Not really into that, I don’t like when they think they know better than the community they are trying to get to play it. The release heroes are too few and too boring. At this point it’s an arcade mode which is fine but it’s not a reliable or release ready game mode and was likely released early out of panic. That’s not a good thing they are potentially shooting themselves in the foot when it could have more reliably been the future of overwatch and instead will likely die as an experiment (though I’m hopeful it won’t because there are some really good bones there to build on.

Hero bans.
Some say they are good, some say they are bad so I’m not going to go in on that however what the symbolize is inherently bad. It is them rather than balancing telling you to just avoid things. It’s a game that draws players with it’s heroes and play styles and identity. Now it’s limiting those things and whether that’s good or bad likely comes from what you think of the current state of the heroes. So now people who only have one game in which they can say for instance play a hero they just can’t anymore. That’s not a good thing to them. What would be would be fixing the issue that causes people to want bans. People often say it will give them data but the fact is the data has always been there it’s strictly on an effort blocker, getting more data likely won’t increase their effort and willingness to fix ite have the resources to fix known problems.

They have shown time and time again to be more interested in the low effort wins vs anything inventive. I understand that that is slowly changing and that’s a good thing, but it is going to take longer than a couple months of doing that for people to believe it is the new normal.

Is it egregiously bad? No it’s that they seem to for some reason accompany every good thing they do with a self inflicted wound to go with it so they don’t get too much success.

There is plenty to complain about, and plenty to like. The game is very fun to me and to many. I’ll play it more than any other game for now until death stranding 2 comes out then I’ll probably take a few weeks off. I won’t spend money on their shop anymore because they have proven to me that my purchases are meaningless to them. They have had me delete an account rather than fix it, let people ban heroes rather than fix them, put effort into game modes people don’t like, have a CS run by robots and a system where you can’t defend yourself against them taking everything you have spent away. I’m not spending money when I know I can have my account removed or even just the skin I am wearing banned by way of the hero being unavailable, it isn’t worth a dime.

If that’s good business then the bar is too low. That’s my thought.

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Everything you said before is valid and I agree with it, but this last part is just a nail in the coffin.

Their customer support team… there aren’t enough words in the English dictionary to express how appalling they are. Incoherent, incompetent, unhelpful. They are literally able to replace them with an AI model that would do their job much better and faster.

Well said on this though, don’t spend money on the company that believes you don’t own what you buy; that can take everything away from you at any point for any reason.

I mean, every hate is unnecessary if you ask me. It’s not as if we choose the feelings we have tho.

Now, unjustified? That’s a whole new league. I think people have plenty of reason to hate on Blizzard.

Is Overwatch 1 back?

No?

Then the hate is warranted.

And let’s not elaborate on the topic of their other games.
Because anyone who has been following Blizzard from the early years just want the ride to stop now.

Give us Blanka Winton for completing the Street Fighter event you coward! And no, not the freaking charm. But I will take it…

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I’m never not going to be annoyed one skin pack costs as much as or more then Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

Nothing will ever justify those prices.

I don’t care they might throw us a free skin every once and a while.

“Unnecessary”

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The hate is bacause of inconsistency: free skin during LE SSERAFIM collab #1 but not #2, free skin Katara during Avatar collab but not for Gundam Wing and now 8 skins for Street Fighter but no free skin. Its that loss of free stuff thats upsetting for many players.

My first account was broken. I contacted them over and over and put in ticket after ticket with just the most irrelevant responses until one of them just said create a new account lol.

My account had a fun bug. It was during the visual bug issue of ranking up so they just kept telling me it was visual lol.
What would happen is if I was on a rank up game and won instead of ranking up it would instead show (demotion protection) rank % 0. Then if I lost the next match I would go down. If I won the next match I would just get the normal percent for the rank I was already supposed to have been and was but starting at 0. It literally set my rank progress to 0% on a win when I should rank up. They say it was direct with MMR but given this bug that doesn’t seem possible. I had cosmetics and stuff, but not a very old account just one and a half seasons old, so it wasn’t devastating to delete it and lose the small amount of stuff I had. But the fact that was the solution taught me that I own nothing I buy from them and I don’t want to be part of their rental economy.

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