35 support/all-roles queue wins for
Lifeweaver
Kiriko
50 for Illari
35 DPS wins for Sojourn
35 tank wins for Junkerqueen
50 more for Rammatra
It’s an insane ordeal to unlock the new heroes, it puts you at a huge disadvantage in a game that already puts you at a huge disaadvantage through bad matchmaking.
Surely you should make it faster so people can actually play the game how you intended it to be played. Counterswapping.
IMO you shouldn’t have to unlock them at all. Everyone should just have access to everything. But, there’s 2 reasons that the devs want it this way.
Yep, it is a bit long. Was longer, but they dropped some of the older character’s requirements down.
This season, they offered you the opportunity to buy most of the new releases with legacy credits. You should have gotten 3K worth at the start of the season. Check the event shop, but do it soon. Think this is limited time offer.
yeah, I remember making an alt a while back and the new player experience is honestly ridiculous, needs to be looked at for sure
even just changing it from wins to games played would be appreciated
actually no, you can still play comp without having all the heroes, so if anything smurfing is exactly the same
i guess if smurfs just happen to play the new heroes, then yeah, if they dont, good luck
I agree, games played would be best. 70 tank wins in current meta could literally take some players, especially new ones, SEASONS to complete.
dawg tank wins even as a high elo tank player is nigh impossible, you just don’t have any agency on whether you win unless you play orisa, and no thanks for that
While it sucks, at least its not terrible, look at smite or League and how you need to grind there for heroes
Yes, but the new player experience requires you to pretty much earn all the heroes. So, unless you play one of the starter heroes you have to put in some time or plunk down some cash to get the hero pool you want.
It’s ridiculous for experienced players messing around on new accounts because you are already familiar with all the heroes and know what you like and don’t like and what works in what situation and what metas are.
Real new players don’t know any of that, so having a few heroes locked isn’t a big deal as they play and learn the game.
maybe im biased but I recently got into league and got a large chunk of characters like, near instantly? like i have plenty of heroes to learn and had no issues getting the currency to the ones i wanted
the issue I ran into is that it doesn’t actually incentivise learning different heroes, like I imagine new players gravitate towards one or two heroes they like and just stick with it (this is probably why mercy is as popular as she is)
not at all, you can unlock all the vanilla heroes fairly quickly, its the ow2 heroes that are absolute grindfests
It might have changed, havnt touched it in over a year, but last i played it was terrible.
yeah thats super valid! and i have heard people say it was bad in the past so i dont doubt it
I think someone did the math and it would take like 300 days of playing almost non stop to unlock them all.
It was bad at one point
You still have to play 150 games to unlock Echo.
And they want it that way so that you buy them. That’s why most of the OW2 heroes are on the “safe side of strong”. They want at least some of them to be meta at any time so that you need to own them.
Genji - Play 1 game
D.Va - Play 2 games
Cassidy - Play 3 games
Ana - Play 4 games
Hanzo - Play 9 games
Junkrat - Play 12 games
Roadhog - Play 15 games
Symmetra - Play 20 games
Zenyatta - Play 25 games
Bastion - Play 30 games
Sigma - Play 40 games
Ashe - Play 50 games
Brigitte - Play 60 games
Mei - Play 70 games
Doomfist - Play 85 games
Baptiste - Play 100 games
Sombra - Play 115 games
Wrecking Ball - Play 130 games
Echo - Play 150 games
35 games, wins count for 2.
I wish it were less yea but it’s just games played since the june patch.
that is one of the reason I stopped playing this. I can’t imagine how long it will take when ow have hundreds of heroes.
They don’t count for 2. They count for 1.