I just realized (I was the victim) Ventures Ult hits perfectly fine when the target is on the payload. Soooooo why is it that way when at the same time Reins shatter does not?
Because Shatter has the most wonkiest and worst hitbox you can imagine
They could apply Ventures ult tech to Rein and everything would be fine
If it’s a taller payload like the king’s row or dorado ones, venture’s ult can’t hit you on it.
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It depends on the payload’s model, but I’ve definitely been shattered while standing on the Numbani payload.
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… For me it does? Reins shatter will hit you while you’re on the payload. It’s not something I’ve really paid attention to but I’m sure it does work. Maybe it depends on the payload? Each msp has a different cart 
no idea!
Ah yes! Thought that might be it ^^
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I’ve been shattered on a payload.
But if I say neither should have any vertical hitbox whatsoever? 
It probably also depends on the direction you are ulting from as well. The Circuit Royal payload has a slope on the front, but is vertical in back. Kitsune Rush will go over the front but not the back. Rein and Venture are likely the same.