Imagine if the competitive playlist had 2 modes. One for 222 and one with no role lock. If Overwatch continues to go the 222 route only im done. I have been a player since the beta. And role queue is easily the worse decision i have ever seen happen to a community of gamers. Its literally a different game now. If i could i would delete all the support characters as they are no fun to play except moira. They have very little impact on the progression of capturing objectives.
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So the community loudly and passionately asks for role queue in literally hundreds of threads for literally years, and they get it, and now you’re leaving the game…
Isn’t this literally the devs giving people EXACTLY what they asked for, and it still not being good enough?
You just can’t please this community. No matter what you do, no matter what change you make, no matter if you listen, don’t listen, act, dont act, literally every single change or lack of change ever made to the game results in some post exactly like this by some schmoe who considers it an insufferable affront to the very integrity of the game and the last straw and they are leaving!
You don’t owe satisfaction to people who cant be pleased.
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Your post would make sense if i wanted role queue. Or even asked for it. Pc players were the whiners who wanted role queue. Meanwhile console players clearly saw this was a bad idea from the jump as its way easier to see that the characters were already unbalanced. Overwatch’s switching mechanic is what gave depth to the game and ever since they forced players into competitive role queue, players have complained about the many flaws and toxic habits that come from it. My solution is instead if limiting options give more. I dont see why we dont have specific modes for payload gameplay. Let alone limits on role. There should be at least 3 different competitive modes in my eyes.
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Yeah, but you’re not the only player. Overwatch can’t be designed to literally give every single player individually exactly what they want. So you saying “yes, but I specifically didn’t ask for this” is a pretty weak point. The community at large did ask for it, loudly, repeatedly, for years.
And this idea that only PC players were asking for it and not console players? Cmon man, you’re pulling that right out of your butt. You personally, as an individual, have had enough of a pulse on distinct PC and console Overwatch communities for years to be able to make that claim? Bullsh*t.
If we set aside your madey-upy fantasy claims, the Devs did what we asked them to do, and as is ALWAYS the case literally every.single.time they do literally anything, here is a self-righteous arm-chair dev saying they are done with the game unless they get what they want.
Right.
I’ll see you in a few months complaining about the next thing you don’t like.
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You still have yet to give a reason on to why we cant have both? I see different competitive modes in other shooters. I dont want to get rid of 222 i want an option to play the classic way. The way it was played for years. The way it was played to get my almost 1000 hrs of gameplay. Split the communities so we can enjoy our game and you can enjoy yours because clearly ppl like us dont do well by those rules thats why you have so many complaints. Now i dont see how you could disagree that you should be able to play your way and i should be able to play mine
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You mean one for 2-2-2 And one for goats? Especially when they turn back all the nerfs they added to remove goats.
But i agree with you another more serious comp mode would be nice.
One for teams/clans only.
- No personal rating only team/clans.
- No MMR or other fair systems, just you play the closest in rating opponent that is also queueing, and you didnt play yet that day/week (or a tournament system => system choses your opponent and you have to plan the match time between teams(within a week))
- clan prices for each rank, like sprays with their banner or options to customize skins to their colors(like OWL skins) and for highest rank a sponsor ship(first by blizzard) and entrance into the pro league.
I think they should have just ONE Comp mode, and that is…
The one that the game’s had for SEVENTEEN SEASONS. That one that was perfectly fine the way it was.
Role Queue completely ruined the game, and i’m shocked they haven’t reverted it already. It’s that bad. Queue times alone should be enough to revert it. It’s fine. Just say “yeah, we’d rather have people actually playing our game often. 222 will have to wait for OW2” or something. The games are no better, and players can now see that they didn’t magically rank up due to role queue “fixing” the comps. If anything, you just killed most player’s ability to help you WIN the game by swapping roles.
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Balance problems.
They will revert all the anti goats nerf now we have 2-2-2.
So tanks + healers will get very powerful again.
So goats will be very powerful when 2-2-2 is removed.
I was against it (can read my posts before 2-2-2).
Not because i was against 2-2-2 but because the players and the game weren’t ready for it.
One of the things i posted was queue times would be insane because there are to less tanks. People response was: we rather have longer queue times and good games.
Another thing i predicted:
Most players dont play the game like you see in OWL, they play a complete different game, with 0 teamwork. So roles like tanks, weren’t used by them and also not needed. Just enforcing roles and teamwork on them without teaching them real overwatch, would result in lots of problems…
But is now to late, turning back would be even be a worse decision.
Only thing they can now do is enforce real overwatch on all players and teach them to play with roles/as a team.
But i dont think the brainless monkey designers blizzard have, will figure this out.
They will probably remove roles(or change all roles to dps, like dps heroes with more health and survivabillity, and dps heroes who can also heal)
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But people didnt honestly asked for this poop version of role q.
Blizzard could make it so much better, like why we had to wait two season for "while you wait ". Its so dumb.
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Imo, people didn’t want role queue for the sake of it. They wanted proper teamwork and team mates flexing to counter enemies.
They thought role queue would provide that.
With role queue you still get idiot feeders and one tricks still abound.
Genji on your team playing into Mei, Sym and Moira? Great…
Yeah, that’s a good point. I never thought Role Queue was right for the game, but when it was announce i did start to get excited about the idea of more structure, less random foolishness. I imagined teams would actually group up, play as a team because everyone would be on a role they actually chose to join the game with.
But in the end, i just think it’s extremely limiting and hasn’t led to any better games that i’ve seen!
I feel it’s actually worse now, because when you do have these trolls in a certain role… you can’t even switch to that role to fix it.
To me though, it’s the queue times that really ruin it. I can’t help that i enjoy about 8 DPS heroes, they’re a total blast.
For tanks, i like D.VA (no wonder i’m not queueing tank)
and i like Orisa. But to queue for an entire role for two heroes? I don’t know.
Support, i’ve played some but i find it the most frustrating when the team isn’t doing much.
So, DPS it is for me. And 8 min queues usually. Used to be instant. So, it’s just a really odd move to stick this in the game 3 years later and then announce OW2. I think OW2 would have been a great time to bring Role Queue, refine it, maybe have more tanks and supports.
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The community was not remotely close to unanimous in wanting role queue, and there are also many players who initially supported it who have since declared that they regret their initial support, having now experienced what it does to the game
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so all tanks and supports will play 2-2-2 and dps will play ffa Q, it is not how it should be. We need to get rid of 2-2-2 limitation for all, and be able to play this game calssic way with flex mainers and one-trick players as it is core of this game
I don’t understand you hate so much the idea of flex competitive, even if it’s hidden in the arcade.
No one said anything about removing role queue comp, but you defend role queue comp like even a slight change will break it.
Tank players are not 1/3 of the game playerbase. For tank players to be 1/3 of the role queue competitive system, you need to push some dps somewhere else. And, for now, that somewhere else is another game.
It’s such a great idea, considering they plan to bring overwatch 2 as a DLC.
All we’re asking is to be able to play the game without waiting 15 minutes. It doesn’t matter how they do it. If that’s by pushing support and tank to one per team, by removing role queue or by creating old/classic comp in the arcade.
But the last option is the best option for everyone.