Tweak The DPS Passive

As a Support main im personally a fan of the new passive it helps keep the support role in check while giving DPS some type of impact but it’s not perfect.
It favors a good majority of heroes but some are struggling a bit with this newfound power. And with heroes like Soldier who can re-apply the passive non-stop and turn ults like Zenyatta’s useless it becomes a bit problematic so I think all it really needs is just to be toned down to 15%, have it last 3s, and have a 6s cooldown in between applications.
By the time it wears off you’d have to wait another 3s before applying it again i think it’d help keep it a bit in check

Double down and give it to tanks as well.

Ults shoud’ve never be like ‘‘I press Q, I win’’ button. Also, Soldier’s ult is trash.

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I kinda expect it to get moved down to 15%.

I agree 100% but they shouldn’t be utterly useless either. Genuinely pulling the passive down to 15% would help

I’m fine with whatever the devs choose from (just not something below 10%). I just hope it’s not useless that supports can out heal damage again. Tank role is the most role with some urgency to help them right now.

I think with the projectile tweaks coming and if it gets pulled down to 15% the game will feel alot better. Tanks need some type of big change to make them feel viable like an idea Flats suggested was a new passive that makes them resistant to negative effects like discord, dps passive, CC, ect

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On what planet is Zen’s ult a “press Q, I win?” I get that in certain situations he wins a fight because of the ult, but… but isn’t that all ults? Like isn’t a mercy being cornered by a junkrat tire or a genji getting shattered “q = win?”

All it takes is a nade.

But yes, agreed, soldier ult is ESPECIALLY hot garbo now at least

My idea for the dps passive:

Include conditions where it is applied at half efficiency:

Under 30 damage done per second

Applied by a turret

Applied to DoT effect like venom mine Virus or dynamite.

Zen and Lúcio’s ults change momentum and win fights and shut down Blade/Visor whatever dps or tanks’ ults.

Yes because it is so easy to aim with soldier now it becomes barely worth using

We wouldn’t be in this situation if they knew how to balance their game in the first place.

This extreme power creep and incompetence on management level is what’s ruining the game.

Tbh at this point they should probably add the damage falloff negation back to it. I thought it was a creative feature, and I am not one but i bet soldier mains are pretty sad about their ult rn

Idk if he actually NEEDS a buff rn, but if he doesnt they could just slightly nerf something else to compensate. Ults need to feel impactful imo

Oh think of the soldier mains!

Whats that? Junkrat and symmetra, heroes with historically inflated winrates because they are played only by specialists dropped to 46% winrate? Well screw them

I don’t think helping the health of hero is a disservice to other heroes. Like I said, the change wouldnt be in order to buff him, and they should probably nerf something else to compensate if they do, I’m just saying having a Q button thats almost useless is not great designwise, and I like the S9 changes so I think adaptations to it are great for the future.

On Dps im like a sym one trick (I play reaper too). I would love some buffs, but nothing is stopping them from making the game feel good for everyone. Don’t get so defensive so quick and misconstrue my words

Ok but so many are. And Zen’s is not a press Q to win. His ult is a counter to other ults, you most often use it when responding to an enemy ult. So by the time his ult has ended, and the enemy ult has been countered, both teams are just even.

Press Q to win ults are things like Genji’s blade (although not this season), Ram’s ult, Sigma’s ult, Rein’s ult.