All they do is dumb down the play and allow people to win with the zero effort it takes to throw up 3 Sym turrets. Or they have a Bastion who just left clicks them to victory. Turrets should not be in this game. It’s a substitute for actual skill and effort. Stupid as hell.
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And it takes zero effort to destroy them
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… So you’re admitting to ignoring positioning and map awareness?
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Unless the torb found some godspot hiding place for a turret that can see all choke points of a map, it’s not really hard to deal with it
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This might come as a surprise to you but just shoot the turrets and problem solved
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Imagine complaining about turrets in 2020. You are 4 years too late.
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My turret never kills anything in a straight up fight. But it does force the Genji to think about where he’s going. I call that a success.
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They actually make it better by adding depth. The only one whose dumb gameplay is exposed is people that cannot counter them.
They require placement and proper prediction of enemy paths.
People who have actual skill and put in effort do not die to turrets
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You look at it backwards.
Turrets aren’t allowed to be good, so Torb and Symm won’t ever be good.
Having turrets isn’t the problem. The problem is turrets being trash and opposing players WANTING them to stay trash. That, and Blizzard giving those people their way.
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Removing turrets would mean giving Symmetra a massive rework to compensate.
Thicker beam, more damage, more range. Replace Turrets with her old photon barrier or a budget shield generator.
You know what really shouldn’t be a thing?
Zarya bubbles
Sigmas shield
Any cooldown based shield
You know, stuff that’s spammable and annoying af to take down
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any form of’ AI 'damage in a shooter is never a good thing.
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I think they should exist, but they should
- Go away when the player using them dies
And - All turrets should have a cooldown when they’re destroyed(like torbs). It makes no sense with symm turrets. Like, what’s the point of destroying them when she can just immediately put more down??
But symms turrets are currently dookie, sooo…
This exact topic was posted maybe a week ago. I think the subject line was even exactly the same word for word.
Either way, if you die to a turret then you are beyond bad. You can spit on a Symm turret and destroy it. The only people I see that have problem with Symm turrets are bronze and low silver skilled players.
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The auto-aim damage is trash in higher tier games but too op in lower tier games and ruins the gaming experience.
I think turrets mechanism should be changed to be viable and balanced across all tiers. Not auto-aim damage
When you die to Engineer lol
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If it really took zero effort then anyone could do it and you’d always win doing it.
Instead, the only time people succeed with Bastion, Sym and to a lesser extent Torb, is when they work hard to get good at those characters and master them.
Their kits alone are pretty weak and vulnerable to a LOT of different types of damage in ways many other characters are not. If you can’t figure out their vulnerabilities then that’s 100% on you, and I say this as someone who freakin’ hates Torbjorn in game and thinks his turret is way too long range, especially when you compare it to the super short range Sym’s turrets have and how weak they are.
Basically if you’re mad about turrets in the game it’s because you’re just bad at playing against them, not because the turrets themselves are strong.
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I’m sorry, but if you’re seriously complaining about Symmetra turrets, you know that terrifying 30dps turret that dies in one hit, I don’t even know what to tell you, other than git gud.
Support Symmetra had more damage on her turrets. So if you could deal with them then, you can definitely deal with them now.
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Attach a brig shield to the turret and reduce the turret health. Poke damage shouldn’t delete stationary defenses.
They have reworked all three turret characters in the game to be less dependent on their turrets and more dependent on skill. If you’re forming a car wash as sym, standing at your turret the whole time as torb, or not taking advantage of recon mode as bastion then you’re just playing them wrong