I’ve been hearing this statement for years now. Heard it every time torb and sym got big balance changes (even though sym’s were never the focus of her kit), heard it when illari came out, hear it every time people ask for deployable based heroes.
Please go and boot up overwatch classic right now and play a game of torbjorn so you can see how completely wrong you are
If Symmetra lost her turrets, she would be allowed to be a real girl. That’s the real reason her winrate has always been jacked and it’s relatively obvious to anyone not biased for her. They claim her turrets are useless and then defend them tooth in nail. Make it make sense.
Blizzard have simplified turrets a lot and it really doesn’t make sense why.
Symmetra can just throw them and torb don’t have to even interact with the turret anymore when it is placed once.
They is who? The people that claim one are drastically different from the ones that defend them.
Deploy turret=Turret shoots/heals for you=Turret plays for you. Simple as. Btw, Bob is not the same bc its Ashe and its an ult.
Play another hero if the simple facts of Torb, Sym or Illari bother you.
No, I want it so I can use it, but I don’t want to go against it.
It’s easy, fix it Blizzard!
Uh…The only thing Torb had to ever do with the turret was repair it…That’s it. Im not understanding the whole turrets so simple torb doesnt have to touch it anymore…
Every single Symmetra main I talk to. It’s why I do not care about her state whatsoever even though it’s really rather pathetic and she desperately needs help. It’s not going to happen as long as there is pushback against fixing the problem. That’s just how it is and I have no idea why anyone expects any different.
Sentries are not a problem and honestly every person that insists that they are has an agenda or has gaslighted themselves into believing the reddit echo chamber that she gets nerfed because of her sentries.
Team TP is a much bigger issue for current Sym and the actual reason they keep nerfing her.
Sentries are Sym’s bread and butter ability and removing them would not accomplish anything positive.
Exactly what I am talking about. It’s fine though. I do not need to play that wack character and playing against her these days is pretty fun.
lettem know mr boodhs
It doesn’t matter if it’s the focus or not. Playing against someone who has the game itself playing for them, even just for an assist, is supremely unfun.
Turrets are meant to counter hyper-mobile flankers who depend on speed to evade human aim. Turrets also help players who struggle with aim.
Because Torb had to place it then upgrade it himself with his hammer at one point. Now the turret builds itself to completion and he can focus more on shooting the enemy. And why repair your turret when you can just place a new one? The oy time torbs ever repair the turret now are when they’re behind cover, after team fights, or if they’re literally hiding behind the turret that covers most of their hit box.
Usually said by the types that get walled by a single Turret since they love playing as a style a Turret counters.
They cannot comprehend they need to slow down and remove Turrets or go around them (if an option) nope. They just beeline past them and complain when they take damage or an Opponent uses the Turrets to assist in their elimination, dashing the wannabe MLG player’s plans.
NGL the autopilot thing seems to be something a dude drops in a forum, gets a few likes and unironically thinks he is the god of game balance.
Never seen anyone with actual decent grasp/understanding of the game say something like that.
Torb ability to throw a turret also allow him to reach places that turret usually cant deploy. Same also for sym, throwing turrets is a lot more convenient and going back to the old classic was jarring and slow.
What was nerfed was their turret power and options, which is a shame cause they should have given torb and sym be the few heroes to have multil ults that they can choose depending on the scenarion
Its less useful for Sym because her own have short range so hard to reach places are way less impactful.
Most of the time, Sym uses her sentries to sentrybomb with TP or as a way to block projectiles incoming. Very rarely will throwing them be useful, mostly to annoy Pharah counterswaps by throwing sentries into high terrain.
Not really, I remember that in OW1 Torb and Symm are great defensive heroes precisely because of those turrets. I outplayed every defense, though, because I was a decent S76 at that time on solo queue-- I healed my team mates, put in damage, and got lots of space every time I ulted. And in OWC, I have decent healing numbers and damage as S76 – my order of battle is always avoid sniper angles, pressure tanks and other dps as anchor of my team (back line is my optimal range).
I couldn’t play my preferred role of tank in OWC because the team composition choices of my ad-hoc team mates made no sense (no synergy at all, lol), so I couldn’t play the best composition at that time of Rein-Zarya-Cassidy-Pharah-Mercy-Lucio. I’d even Rein if someone picked Lucio-Zarya, but it’s always either Mercy (missed the old 5-man rez) or Zen. The best synergy that I see a lot is Tracer-Winston (old Tracer is the raid boss of OWC, lol, so OP).
And when I get my friends to play, I did Pharah-Mercy with me as Pharah because I only got 2 of my friends to play again, our old dps mains couldn’t come, and I got only our Mercy/Zen main and our Zarya/DVa main (played DVa mostly, scrabbled for heal packs A LOT, lol). All in all great fun, we never got a 5-man rez because we never had an instance when everyone died on point, lol.