Trans vs sound barrier

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Hi. Which of these 2 great ultimates is more useful?

My vote goes to transcendence as there is no delay, no risk of death while the ultimate is cast.

Your opinions?

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Depends on situation. Trans doesn’t save you from d.va bomb.

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immortality field.

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i’m jk id say sound barrier is more useful since it’s more flexible it can save you from almost everything if your a good lucio you shouldn’t be getting ur sound barrier cancelled

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As Hana said, it is situational. While Trans can save a lot of incoming damage, it won’t do Jack if the enemy Ana presses E in your team’s direction, so you would want Barrier there, just an example.

Both are amazing ults, though.

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I feel it’s a bit case by case. Probably trans since it can soak up a lot more and needs me either one shot, or hard focused to kill me. Generally speaking.

Also, if Sombra EMPs, it knocks out sound barrier, which Trans will be active through. Of course Trans can be removed by Ana’s nade or someone yeeting Zen out of the fight. So there isn’t really a clear cut winner.

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Just chipping in and saying both are great

My wife plays Lucio, and have saved the team numerous times from dva bombs and junk wheels

I play Moira more, and find trans good for supporting dives (and mad charging reins) with a combination of dps and heals. Also it charges faster

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Sound Barrier is much better and doesn’t get countered by the E ability of the most picked support.

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Trans can’t be interrupted, but gets countered by Bionade and insta kills.
Sound Barrier gets countered by CC and EMP.

In the end they are pretty close and at least for me the deciding factor is if I need a Zen or a Lucio and not if Trans or Sound Barrier would be marginally better.

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My heart says sound barrier, because generally overhealing protecting from burst is more valuable than just burst healing. Beat can save you from many more situations, but trans is amazing because you can get it consistently every 45 seconds if you’re a zen god, whereas its common to see 2 minutes between beats even on good lucios in comp. Zen’s instant activation makes it really fat large as well, but I believe sound barrier has better range in its los checks. Really, both are tied for the second best ultimate after EMP I suppose.

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Trans does not stop riptire, DVa bomb, high noon, or any burst damage because trans is healing over time. Sound barrier is an HP pool increase and you can do damage as lucio after you hit Q

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Nanoblade can still kill through Trans, but not the majority of Sound Barrier.

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Both is equally useful and have their pros and cons.

Trans is for burst healing which is good to heal those substantial damage such as Genji’s Dragon Blade or Solider 76’s Tactical Visor.

Whereas Sound Barrier is to prevent those high burst damage such as D.va’s Self-Destruct or Junkrat’s Rip Tire.

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well, beat can be stunned. trans cant. beat can tank dva bomb, and trans cant. its situational.

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Trans ive like 1000 hours in this game and i think ive seen beat make a difference twice…normally see the teams who beat still lose lol

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Both a fantastic Ults, but I’d put Trans a bit higher on the list.

Instant cast time is just such a huge advantage.

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Lol no comparison.

Sound barrier is a top tier ult, trans is below average.

Trans makes you down a player, you cannot do dmg or gain all the utility from zen. Countered entirely by nade, and has less range.

Sound barrier has greater range, countered only by EMP, and only if timed properly. You can heal over the sound barrier as well. Finally, lucio can do whatever he needs when he casted sound barrier, speed, dmg, heal etc.

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Trans feels more reliable to me. I can’t count the amount of times I’ve wasted sound barrier in a grav only to die like 2-3 seconds later. 99% of the time I’d prefer the constant 300 hps.

Obviously they’re good for different purposes. You wouldn’t want Transcendence for a rip tire.

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Over all I’d say Trans because while it has it’s flaws a decent Zen can charge it up super fast. It doesn’t solve all problems but it also doesn’t take much to pull off. Honestly the biggest skill a zen player needs to work on with Trans is not wasting it when it’s not needed.

Sound barrier on the other hand has a cast time, made worse if your in the air for some reason and have farther to fall to the ground. It’s line of sight based and can be blocked by barriers and the like, EMP also knocks it out instantly.

SB does cover a bigger area and will block more dmg at the moment of casting. But it tends to take a lot of skill as a lucio player to use right as you tend to have to use it BEFORE you even know you need it. Especially at higher ranks where there is far less delay between “in danger” and “dead”.

SB is also a bit harder to charge up. Lucio’s dmg is pretty pathetic and I don’t think you get ULt charge for speed boost assist kills. Meaning your mostly dealing with what ever scraps of healing your aura can get before the 2nd healer tops off every one.

Edit: Unless of course there are pits, and environmental kills fills it up fast. Though they often are a bit risky and take you away from your team to do.

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They both have hard counters (sound barrier countered by sombra EMP and transcendance countered by anti nade and instant damage) But IMO I think sound barrier is better for turning a teamfight around.