Tracer OP pls nurf

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OK boiyo lets tussle. Biased 2-trick here. I know how the people who make Tracer threads like to use stats from this great website “Overbuff” which you may have heard of at some point. So here goes:

Tracer is currently the 12th most picked hero in the game. She is lower than Ana, who is literally unplayable unless you’re on defense and you’re super smart about positioning.

Tracer’s average winrate in comp is 49.58%. Do you have any idea how trash that is? to put that into perspective, Reaper has a 50.4% winrate. [Edited by Blizzard] Reaper.

Let me list some other heroes that Blizzard has apparently neglected and their average comp winrates:
Doomfist: 49.99%
Symmetra: 59.6% (the highest winrate in the game by about 4%)
Mei: 49.59%
Torbjorn: 55.39% (second highest winrate in the game)
Bastion: 49.60%

The point of this post is literally to say one thing: if you are below the top few percent of players, which I and nearly everyone else on the forums are, then your opinion on how the game should be balanced literally doesn’t matter. We do not understand the game in the same way that high masters-t500 players do. In the ranks that we play in, torb and sym are the best characters in the game and Tracer is unplayable garbage. Do not campaign for a nerf that you don’t understand the consequences of and that you don’t even need. Low rank Tracer players do not understand the hero well enough to actually make an impact,and if they do 1v6 your team, then they deserve the win.

Edit: the point of this post was to highlight the fact that people use stats to campaign for a nerf, when the stats they use are only relevant to the top few percent. I wanted to show how much of a contrast there is between our stats and their stats.

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Tracer OP pls nurf

Yes i agree! Tracer is Op and in need of a nerf!

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The reason Symmetra and Torb have such high win-rates is due to the fact they are played so little and usually only played by players who can actually win with them, the win-rates are very skewed.

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not to mention how much higher they’d be without people who pick them as throw picks, win/pickrates definently arent enough to justify buffs/nerfs.

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I don’t care about Tracers pick rates relative to tanks and supports. She isn’t competing with them for slots (unless she’s super mega hyper op broken, which she’s not). She competes with other damage heroes. In that, she’s near the top.

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Did you see the heroes I listed?

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No, you said her pick rate is lower than Ana, which is completely irrelevant information so I stopped reading at that point.

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according to overbuff she’s the 11th.

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I’m on this month not this week, more reliable results cuz of a longer time-span.

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That’s only if you include tanks/supports, which you shouldnt.

For dps heroes she’s number 2.

It’s Soldier, Tracer, Junkrat, Genji, McCree.

I choose PC, Comp. We can break it down further if we want by rank, and the higher the rank, the more picked Tracer is for a DPS slot. She doesn’t fall out of top 5 till silver I think? Something like that anyway.

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Lol

Basically you think they should ignore all the data and only balance for OWL, less than 1% of the player base.

It doesn’t matter if 99%+ of the player base will suffer, they should ignore everything but the highest level of play.

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/trickle-down-meta-isnt-real/21021/5

Tracer isn’t top 5 'till Grandmaster.

I’m on console. I’m not on PC anymore. Tracer is fine here. There are few very good Tracers here, especially my rank of Platinum.

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dude no one suffers from Tracer at low ranks unless you’re just bad. Her stats are so garbage in plat and below. I’m not trying to be toxic but according to the rest of us the hero with some of the worst stats in our rank should be nerfed.

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Sym has a different reason (Torb to some degree)

The win/loss stats is for the hero you were when the game was won/lost.

Pleanty of people Sym / Torb point A defense.

If they hold, then, they won as Sym / Torb.

If they lose point A, they switch to their point B hero. They win/lose as that hero.

It is also why tracer has a low win rate for a powerful hero, because a lot of people switch to tracer to hold the cart at the last 10 meter mark.

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I actually misinterpretted your post. Thought you were being facetious with stats. My bad.

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That compares her to tanks and supports. She doesn’t compete for slots with them. They are irrelevant. It only matters what her pick rate is relative to other dps.

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I was being facetious with the way people like to use stats to justify balance changes when the stats they use don’t even affect their level of play. It’s hard for me to convey but I tried my best :smiley:

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Thats the problem with tracer op in high tiers and not good in low/mid tiers. So simply nerfing her would be a bad thing to do.

I do agree that something needa to be done but buffing her counters results in them destroying everyone else instead as well. So it’s a bit more complicated.

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Her kit is so fragile she would get ruined in low tiers if they changed much. I’ve heard a couple t500s say that maybe reducing clip damage from 240 to 220 would be a good idea, and I’d agree with that.

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So you agree that she needs a nerf, good now lets make Blizzard do that!

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