Tracer kiriko interaction

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Kind of obnoxious, you literally can’t engage kiriko if you’re 120 health or below because she will just oneshot you.

It has a big hitbox and at tracers effective range has almost 0 travel time and she has a small hitbox which makes her almost impossible to oneclip.

So if you take literally any damage even a melee you have to instantly recall or go grab a healthpack.

I’m literally forced to switch to Genji alot of the time.

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So if you ever have a problem with Tracer play kiriko because she seems to be goated at killing tracer, maybe not at Top500 I can’t speak on that

But Masters/Low GM and downwards

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Dps players when supports aren’t a free kill:

Okay but fr, 120 on a headshot isn’t that bad, I mean, lots of characters to 120 with body shots too

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Forum players when they think a support should be better at dueling a DPS with oppressive cooldowns incredibly survivability and healing.

If you want her to be a dps remove her healing.

I have more hours on support and tank both of them being my highest rank.

You talk about “DPS players when supports aren’t a free kill” but I’m willing to bet I’m better than you at support.

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Can we stop acting like supports are free kills??? Bap in ow1 could easily beat a lot of the dps heroes in a 1v1…
Supports having overbloated kits that can do everything like kiriko has just isn’t healthy.

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Still can, luckily he can’t teleport through walls though.

Alot of the Supports are able to 1v1 DPS

Brig can (Brig can destroy Genji or characters like Ashe if she gets in melee)
Bap can (Bap can almost 1v1 any DPS in the game because of Immo.)
Kiriko can (Destroys Tracer)
Moira can (Moira can destroy characters like Widow at close or characters like Genji at far outside his range)
Lucio can (For example lucio is incredibly good against Ashe)

Most of those characters who do 120 on body shots have extremely slow projectiles like Junkrat or have them on cooldowns like Soldier.

They also generally can’t teleport through walls, climb walls and make themselves invincible and have a small hitbox.

For example Hanzo does 125 on bodyshot but he’s alot easier to kill than Kiriko is as Tracer ALOT LOT EASIER

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Whereas Kiriko literally just forces me to swap to genji instead, because her healing output is insane and I can’t really kill her without her oneshotting me.

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It’s also not that difficult of a shot to land. I’ve played the duel from both sides many times. It’s very forgiving.

I’d say she’s even better in that duel at mid to low elo, because tracers there are more likely to ego you and get in your face. Headshot melee until they rage swap. Tracer in high elo is more likely to be skittish and avoid the 1v1, but that’s still a lot of value.

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Thats exactly what I do I either avoid the duel or switch to Genji.

Its incredibly obnoxious and easy to hit shot.

I’m Masters on both DPS maining Tracer and Masters on Ana, but I can also play Kiriko to Masters level I have a good WR on her.

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But she is so incredibly obnoxious to 1v1.

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I have gotten Kiriko headshot + melee off on many a Tracer. It never gets any less funny.

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Its incredibly oppressive for a Support to be able to do that to a DPS, whos whole niche is killing supports and diveable dps so easily and effectively.

DPS are duelists Tracer in a 1v1 is almost a free kill for any decent Kiriko, the fac that Kiriko can just dominate her and also heal on top with OP abillities is just ridiculous

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Man, there were less complaints back when Cass could stun → headshot…
I put it on the same level as Genji players whining about Moira.

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It seems to me that your Tracer is being outplayed. Try switching.

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sKiLl iSsUe <20 tracer blinks>

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If a Kiriko can regularly pull this of, then she is just good and outplays you. That happens when you play the hero with the lowest HP pool in the game, vs the support with the highest sudden damage in a duel out of the support role.

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Or maybe you shouldn’t blame others for your poor target selection.

You are not entitled to a free kill simply because you chose the role with the least responsibilities.

A common misconception that DPS has is that you are entitled to an easy kill.

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Kiriko isn’t just “not a free kill” she also has arguably the best utility in the game, one of the best escape abilities in the game, vertical mobility with wallclimb and solid healing.

Kiriko literally does everything for no tradeoff.

Bap has high damage, healing and utility, but poor overall mobility.

Ana has powerful healing and utility, but no mobility

Lucio has powerful utility and mobility, but low healing

Kiriko has everything in return for nothing

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Kiriko is a jack of all trades, master of none.
Her healing is good but not the best (Ana, Bap and Moira beat her in pure numbers, Mercy also beats her over games)
Her damage is good but not the best (Bap and Zen beat her in burst, everyone but not-battle-Mercy beat her in sustain)
Her utility is good but not the best (Ana beats her).
Her mobility is good but not the best (Mercy and Lucio beat her).

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Countered not outplayed.

And I do switch to genji like I mentioned in the post

Masters in ranked :slight_smile:
What rank are you?

They’re bots everyone on this forum is bots.

They play one character on one role, and have no clue about any balance in the game I played almost every character for 20 hours have over 1k hours on the game have Masters in every role.

Have equal hours on every role almost.

They think Kiriko and Lucio are free kills despite most of them being able to 1v1 DPS while being almost uncatchable.

Laughable “Supports playing dead by daylight” despite having the least deaths per role.

So what? Soldier in OW1 was jack of all trades master of none didn’t stop him from being the best character in the entire game.

Sorry my fault I choose the wrong target, yes let me target Ana instead who will be extensively healed by Kiriko and Suzu’ed if I don’t target her first

Sorry I forgot the character that can wall climb, teleport through walls, make herself invincible was a freekill.

Countered by a bloated character

No there wasn’t people literally payed to renamed their accounts “NerfCree”

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Stun was a cooldown that you could easily bait out, kunai is kirikos primary fire. Not at all comparable.

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Do you really think me writing it like that means I’m serious I’m taking the Mick out of people who say that as a response to a complaint.

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So do i, and for a majority of characters i have more than 20 hours.

I just think it sucks, because kiriko isn’t outright oppressive. She doesn’t have a big, in your face tool that everyone can point at and say “broken!”

Understanding why Kiriko is broken is just more intricate and most people just don’t. Not faulting them for that, but its true

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